Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Predators and Varmints Suggestions on what caliber I should buy

The picture on CZ's website looks like the wood stocked 527 American sporter comes with the M1 bottom metal now for the 3-shot mag. But it comes with the 5-shot magazine.

Does anyone know if this is correct?

Last CZ I purchased this last summer was depicted as offering the trigger-guard / mag-well at least prepped for the 3 round mag. Have to admit I was dissapointed to receive the rifle with the standard old trigger group that is dedicated to the 5 round mag. I was hoping for the simple switch over to the 3 round mag down the road. No dice!

CZ is not only talking of the mag-well going across the board to the relieved style found on the M1. In their advertisements they show all of there 527's with the M1 style trigger guard, relieved to accept the 3 round mag.

I feel this boarders on false advertising GRRR.

Unless you get specific description or have it in your hand to see the newer trigger guard I would not be expecting anything except the old style dedicated to the longer 5 round mag.

I would be lying if I said this did not pizzzz me off.

Hunterapp, thanks for the info. I kinda figured that's the way it was. Last 527 American I saw on the shelf had the old style trigger guard. And I think they're saving the fancy wood for the FS and other versions.

Are you planning on harvesting the fur or are you just shooting coyotes?
I harvest between 30 and 40 coyotes a year with a 204 / 40 gr Vmax which does an excellent job of preserving the hide as long as I do my part with shot placement. My longest ranged kill was 365 yards which is rare as most of my shooting is done at less than 200 yards. If you are not worried about the fur or don't mind sewing up holes then any gun will work. It's more about proper bullet selection and placement than anything else.

Tikka 1in8 twist 22-250.

Fast twist .22-250s are my favorite!
I also suggest a .22-250 with either a 9 or 8 twist.
My bullets of choice for mine are:
53gr Vmax or Nosler Varmageddons Good all around speedy bullet, used on deer and such.
80gr Bergers Used for deer hunting and 600 F-class open.

I would look for a .22-250 with 1:8 twist. I think that Whittaker guns was selling them in a Tikka for a while. More companies are starting to make them if I remember correctly. Having that fast twist and extra oomph is great for coyotes etc and longer range.

Somethings gone awry here with suggestions of barrel heating long range yote slayers.

teesh,

For what you describe and since you are a reloader, I recommend either the 17 Hornet or the 20 Vartarg based on the 221 Fireball case if you would consider doing a build. No barrel heating in colony varmint shooting IME with either and very accurate and easy to load for if you can find FB brass for the Vartarg or buy the 17 Hornet ammo from LAX and either reload it or sell the brass. 20 caliber is very good but .204 Ruger heats barrel too much IMO. 20 Vartarg with only about 18 grains of powder and 32 grain bullets works great for me in sporter or Varmint contour barrels and neither barrel heats up. I have two 17 Hornets and use the Calhoun single shot replacement instead of the factory magazine on my CZ .I have two Rem 700 based 20 Vartarg's. One with a Lilja varmint contour barrel and one a rechambered .204 Ruger Rem factory barrel on a Rem 700 SA with aftermarket follower to make it feed. I use the Varmint model as a single shot with a single shot follower to replace the factory mag. Good luck on your choice.

22Hornet, 222 or 223.

All of these cases are a lot easier and cheaper to load or find loaded, they're all made in walkabout rifles and they're the parent cases for everything else recommended.
That's also a good idea of what warms up and to what degree ( no pun).

A 221 case IMO, is an expensive way to avoid a 222.

.223 Rem and talk to Seafire about Blue Dot loads.

Ed

My 2 cents, Cooper in 222. Or maybe 22br or 22ppc.

Since you have a .223 you like, I'd either look at a .17 HMR if you don't have one, otherwise decidedly bigger. .22-250 is ok, .220 Swift is better, and a big 6mm or .25 is better yet. If you have something to handle the volume shooting already, a serious "pounder" can be a lot of fun. For a few years my only varmint rifle was a Ruger 77 VT in .25-'06. Stuff **died**. What it lacked in high volume, it made up for in per-shot "splat".

Tom

Another 223. Use the same load as you use in your current 223, there is a lot to be said for having rifles with like trajectories, it takes a lot of thinking (and missing) out of the game.

drover