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The Real Hawkeye, are you saying it didn't happen?

They know human nature and that the hatred would start again if such laws are not in place. You don't need to look further than this tread to understand that.

When did he tell you that?

If he had found homicidal gas chambers and orders relating to a national genocide program against the Jews, these facts would be part of the historical record, not points of doctrine the denial of which is punishable by prison sentences.

Everyone who calls themself a Constitution believing American should ponder that post. Well said Mannlicher.

Here's a quote from a Jew, a former distant relative of mine...........................

“If it were not for the accident of my birth, I would be anti-Semitic. Any people who has been persecuted for two thousand years must be doing something wrong.” - Henry Kissinger

Yes, they are doing something wrong. You can read about it in the Bible.

At the first group of Nuremberg trials, there were 22 defendants. There were SIX BOXCARS worth of written evidence, MANY MONTHS of testimony by witnesses, including films, and ADMISSIONS by some of the Nazis on trial--and many others later--that the Holocaust did indeed occur.

Perhaps TRH was ignorant of that.

I don't believe in suppression of ideas, but I can understand why Germany would want to make suppression of such denials a crime. How difficult would it be to get people like The Real Hawkeye and HuntnShoot to willingly join in if another opportunity for mass murder of Jews occurred? I don't know.

We like to think that everyone in the occupied countries joined the resistance against the Nazis. Not so. Many willingly helped the Germans deport people to known death. This happened in Holland, where a Dutchman denounced Anna Frank to the Germans, In Poland, where they recently passed a law making it illegal to say that anyone collaborated, in the Baltics and the Ukraine, on the British Channel Islands, and most especially in France. France was the only conquered country where the government was retained and officially collaborated with the Nazis.

As for why nobody denounces the millions killed by Communism, PargerU.com has an interesting 5-minute video that explains why. I cannot understand how anyone could give the Commies a pass. Or the Turks for slaughtering the Armenians. Or the Germans for simply letting 3.5 million Russian POWs starve to death.

Whoa boy! That woman has they crazy eyes!

She’s more fugged up than a soup sandwich. Guaranteed.

What I take from this thread so far

1 Hawkeye had some very quick KOTY competition


2 Hawkeye, realizing he had to step up his game reached deep down to come up with some really kooky shift

Subsequently securing the KOTY lead thus far

It's well known the Germans documented everything including the holocast.

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007271

The American prosecutors at Nuremberg decided the best evidence against Nazi war criminals was the record left by the Nazi German state itself. They wanted to convict Nazi war criminals with their own words. While the Germans destroyed some of the historical record at the end of the war and some German records were destroyed during the Allied bombing of German cities, Allied armies captured millions of documents during the conquest of Germany in 1945. Allied prosecutors submitted some 3,000 tons of records at the Nuremberg trial. More than a decade later, beginning in 1958, the United States National Archives, in collaboration with the American Historical Association, published 62 volumes of finding aids to the records captured by the US military at the end of the war. More than 30 further volumes were published before the end of the 20th century

The US Army made many significant finds of Nazi booty and records, among them gold, currency, artworks, and documentation discovered on April 7, 1945, by engineers of the US 90th Infantry Division in the Kaiseroda Salt mine in Merkers, Germany. Millions of documents were captured at various locations, including records of the German Army High Command records; files from Krupp, Henschel, and other German industrial concerns; Luftwaffe (German air force) material; and records kept by Heinrich Himmler (the Chief of the German Police and Reich Leader of the SS), the German Foreign Office, and many others.

Even where central files had been destroyed, the Allies were able to some extent to reconstruct events and operations from the records they did secure. The Reich Security Main Office (RSHA) records, for example, were burned in the basement of its Prague regional headquarters but copies of many of RSHA records were found and collected from the files of local Gestapo (secret state police) offices across Germany. Captured German documents provided a record of the policies and actions of the Nazi state. Both the Wannsee Conference Protocol, which documented the cooperation of various German state agencies in the SS-led Holocaust, and the Einsatzgruppen Reports, which documented the progress of the mobile killing units assigned, among other tasks, to kill Jewish civilians during the invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941, were among the documents central to the Holocaust submitted at Nuremberg.

During the Nuremberg trial, Nazi Germany's dedicated filming of itself was also turned into evidence of its crimes. From the earliest beginnings of the Nazi Party in the 1920s, through the military invasions of World War II and graphic depictions of atrocities, German photographers and camera crews recorded (often proudly) what they accomplished in pursuit of their ideology. Toward the end of the war, teams of Allied military personnel worked tirelessly to locate, collect, and categorize this photographic and film record.

In addition to official photography and films produced at the behest of the Nazi state, German soldiers and police took numerous photographs and film footage of German operations against Jews and other civilians. They documented the public humiliation of Jews, their deportation, mass murder, and confinement in concentration camps. This became powerful visual evidence of Nazi war crimes submitted at Nuremberg. For example, Allied prosecutors submitted the so-called “Stroop Report,” which included as an appendix an album of photographs taken on the orders of SS and Police Leader Jürgen Stroop to document his destruction of the Warsaw ghetto uprising in spring 1943. According to Stroop's own calculations, his forces captured more than 55,000 Jews and of these, killed at least 7,000 and sent 7,000 more to the Treblinka killing center.

Further visual documentation came from the US Army Signal Corps, which, in the course of photographing and filming American operations in World War II, also played a crucial role in documenting evidence of Nazi atrocities and the Holocaust. Many of the early still and moving pictures of newly liberated Nazi concentration camps were taken by Army photographers such as Arnold E. Samuelson and J Malan Heslop. A number of these images were later transmitted to news agencies in the United States and other countries, where they helped to inform the world about the horrors of Nazism and the plight of concentration camp prisoners.

On November 29, 1945, the IMT prosecution introduced an hour-long film titled "The Nazi Concentration Camps." When the lights came up in the Palace of Justice all assembled sat in silence. The human impact of this visual evidence was a turning point in the Nuremberg trial. It brought the Holocaust into the courtroom.

Eyewitness testimony from both perpetrators and survivors laid the foundation for much of what we know about the Holocaust, including details of the Auschwitz death machinery, atrocities committed by the Einsatzgruppen and other SS and police units, the destruction of the Warsaw ghetto, and the original statistical estimate of six million murdered Jews. Many people directly involved in the killing program died before the end of the war, but the Allies interrogated many of those who were still alive in preparation for the trial. None of the perpetrators denied the Holocaust. Most just tried to deflect their responsibility for the killings.

Three key perpetrators gave evidence directly related to the Holocaust: Hermann Göring, the highest official of the Nazi state tried at Nuremberg, testified openly and frankly about the persecution of German Jews from the rise of the Nazi party to power in 1933 until the outbreak of war in 1939; Otto Ohlendorf testified directly about his unit, Einsatzgruppe D, killing 90,000 Jews in the southern Ukraine in 1941; and the commandant of Auschwitz, Rudolf Hoess, testified frankly about the gassing of more than a million Jews at the Auschwitz-Birkenau killing center during the war. All three claimed that they carried out the legitimate orders of the state.

While the testimony of perpetrators is often chilling in its frankness about the killing program, testimony from survivors, then and today, is often the best antidote to Holocaust denial. Holocaust survivors directly experienced Nazi genocidal policies. Their testimony is personal, immediate, and, for this reason, compelling. Survivors like Marie-Claude Vaillant-Couturier who testified at Nuremberg about her experiences at Auschwitz, and Elie Wiesel, who, after the war, wrote the book Night about his deportation from Hungarian-occupied Transylvania to Auschwitz in 1944, provide the human element. Such witnesses convey what it felt like to be the target of genocide.

Taken together, the documents, photographs, film, and perpetrator and survivor testimony at postwar trials provided an inescapable and undeniable documentation of the Holocaust.

No conclusion coming from a Soviet style kangaroo court is considered evidence by serious historians. You need only scratch the surface of historical inquiry into the matter to discover the laughable illegitimacy of those proceedings.

I wonder how long it will be before people start going to prison for not believing what's reported on CNN?

Not long, at this rate, Bristoe.

Some folk spend so much time chasing rabbit holes on the inter web they actually start to believe the schit.

Witness the flat earth folk, moon landing was a hoax folk, Masons are devil worshiper folk, holocaust deniers, 911 inside job folk..........

There are thousands of them.

researchers Michael Shermer and Alex Grobman

Now there's a couple of interesting researchers. If I wanted to prove a holocaust theory I would not have chosen those 2 to do it.

And what illiegitimacy would that be, Oberstrumbanfuehrer Hawkeye?

I think TRH is 3 out of 5 on this one.

Believe this too while you're at it.

http://www.newsweek.com/hitler-trump-germany-nazi-president-641392

4 out of 5, and very possibly full boat