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Some of y'all are so quick to argue about the Holocaust that you're missing the point, which is not only freedom of speech, but freedom of thought itself. We have entered into the Orwellian, enabled by technology. Few get it.


Exactly. I don't for a second think that the holocaust didn't happen but to throw someone in jail for expressing a different opinion is incredible.


Not incredible: it's just plain wrong.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

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My take on the little old lady with the pigtails is she's definitely just not all there.
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Albert Einstein and Steven Hawkens fit that "take" just to name a few that appear they are not all there.

And what some here are advocating or maybe suggesting is, if I don't agree with your thoughts or beliefs, or say you don't follow the majority in your belief, you are not allowed to be heard.

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My take on the little old lady with the pigtails is she's definitely just not all there.
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Albert Einstein and Steven Hawkens fit that "take" just to name a few that appear they are not all there.

And what some here are advocating or maybe suggesting is, if I don't agree with your thoughts or beliefs, or say you don't follow the majority in your belief, you are not allowed to be heard.

The Germans believe denying the undeniable is akin to screaming fire in a crowded theater. Given the numbers of nazi sympathizers and nazis after WWII, their fears were likely genuine. Thus the law. We, nor most countries, do not have such a law.

This woman went to Germany to be noticed. She was, so she got what she wanted. Maybe it will turn out like she hoped and maybe not. People like her are not among those I care one way or another about but overall deplorable is an apt description in my perspective.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

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Stifling communism world spread is again a far cry from forcing everyone to be just like us


Well,.....America was allied with the Communists in it's war against Germany,...so there must have been another reason.

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Stifling communism world spread is again a far cry from forcing everyone to be just like us


Well,.....America was allied with the Communists in it's war against Germany,...so there must have been another reason.


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This subject has a way of bringing to the surface the phony conservatives, i.e., those who pretend conservatism, but actually, in their heart of hearts, reject the basic principles on which our nation was founded.

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Originally Posted by K22
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but to arrest someone for having an opposing view is sobering. Arrest them? Come on now.


Everyone who calls themself a Constitution believing American should ponder that post. Well said Mannlicher.

Here's a quote from a Jew, a former distant relative of mine...........................

“If it were not for the accident of my birth, I would be anti-Semitic. Any people who has been persecuted for two thousand years must be doing something wrong.” - Henry Kissinger



Along those lines, a very distant relative of mine and part of the Spanish "Realm", his title reads as follows: Marques De Casa De Calvo Y De La Puerta y MATA JUDIOS.. operative words in bold and dubious distinction earned during the Inquisition...


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
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Stifling communism world spread is again a far cry from forcing everyone to be just like us


Well,.....America was allied with the Communists in it's war against Germany,...so there must have been another reason.

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Stifling communism world spread is again a far cry from forcing everyone to be just like us


Well,.....America was allied with the Communists in it's war against Germany,...so there must have been another reason.


Is not the enemy of my enemy, my friend?


Well,...if you want to say that, then say that. But you can't say that America's intent in WW2 was to stifle Communism. America's entry into WW2 enabled Communism.

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Some of y'all are so quick to argue about the Holocaust that you're missing the point, which is not only freedom of speech, but freedom of thought itself. We have entered into the Orwellian, enabled by technology. Few get it.


Exactly. I don't for a second think that the holocaust didn't happen but to throw someone in jail for expressing a different opinion is incredible.

You can see some in the U.S. that would do the same thing. Look at the calls to jail or blackball those that don't buy into the global warming scam or the "hate speech" laws that have been enacted over the last 20 years. All you have to do to get someone thrown in jail is to get their opinion labeled "hate speech" and you can have them arrested for expressing an opinion that isn't mainstream.




We should also remember that Germany is not the US, and does not have our constitutional structure, nor should we force such upon them. They are their own sovergnty after all
I haven't heard anybody here advocate forcing the Germans to do anything. The tone of those paying attention is more like, "lest it happen here". As to German sovereignty...there has been no "Gerexit". Thus they are part of the European union, which is more about removal of sovereignty. Then there are all those "refugees" flooding their country, raping their women and committing other crimes. Again, WGAF about the Germans? This is about our own free speech and when we are the last bastion, it isn't a stretch to see our own freedom waning.

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It still dumbfounds me that some believe it never happened. The evidence is incontrovertible.....period.



Here's the thing that bothers me......and I said this on the a recent thread concerning the Holocaust......the Jews have succeeded in turning the Holocaust into "the only genocide that matters." We know that far more people were killed in that time period by the Soviet Union, but that has been swept under a rug, and not allowed to be mentioned. Why?.........because the Jews have gone to great lengths to make sure of it. If someone can be arrested and charged with a hate crime because they deny the Holocaust, then why not do the same if they refuse to believe the atrocities of the Communists?

Murder is murder, and wrong, whether it was a Polish Jew put to death at Dachau, or a Ukrainian peasant put to death by Stalin's orders.












My feelings exactly! In my view, a person who is a socialist is little different than a nazi.

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Eisenhower was a far seeing genius to foresee that the genocide would be denied many years in the future. He did all he could to make sure as many people as possible saw it.

Wrong. What Ike saw was a total clusterfuck that’s typical on the losing side of any long drawn out major war, ie., lots of dead people (not just Jews) who died in horrible conditions from disease and starvation. He found no homicidal gas chambers and no systematic extermination program. If he did, no questions would remain and there would be no need to criminalize the normal processes of historical inquiry.


The other thread on this called you out for lying about there not being any German gas chambers. You said show them to you and several of us did just that.
We posted pictures and transcripts and construction dates. Well before the Russians arrived.

You did not answer.


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Originally Posted by JamesJr
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It still dumbfounds me that some believe it never happened. The evidence is incontrovertible.....period.



Here's the thing that bothers me......and I said this on the a recent thread concerning the Holocaust......the Jews have succeeded in turning the Holocaust into "the only genocide that matters." We know that far more people were killed in that time period by the Soviet Union, but that has been swept under a rug, and not allowed to be mentioned. Why?.........because the Jews have gone to great lengths to make sure of it. If someone can be arrested and charged with a hate crime because they deny the Holocaust, then why not do the same if they refuse to believe the atrocities of the Communists?

Murder is murder, and wrong, whether it was a Polish Jew put to death at Dachau, or a Ukrainian peasant put to death by Stalin's orders.












I agree totally. And I don't think either one or any of them were anything but horrible. So I won't ignore the jews, or any of the others.


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Originally Posted by RickyD
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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Some of y'all are so quick to argue about the Holocaust that you're missing the point, which is not only freedom of speech, but freedom of thought itself. We have entered into the Orwellian, enabled by technology. Few get it.


Exactly. I don't for a second think that the holocaust didn't happen but to throw someone in jail for expressing a different opinion is incredible.


Not incredible: it's just plain wrong.


Some lies can get you jail time. Changing odometer mileage...place or time of birth....


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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Well,...if you want to say that, then say that. But you can't say that America's intent in WW2 was to stifle Communism. America's entry into WW2 enabled Communism.


A bit disingenuous, I think. Yes a valid argument but not doing so would have resulted in who knows what, except of course, the end of this country (and the West) as we know it. What SHOULD have been done, was a full out war in 1919 to crush the commies and help the White Russians, but after WWI, nobody had the stones. Kinda like today and for example Iran. We should have invaded and crushed them a long time ago and pretty soon it will be too late. Such is the danger of isolationists.


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Some of y'all are so quick to argue about the Holocaust that you're missing the point, which is not only freedom of speech, but freedom of thought itself. We have entered into the Orwellian, enabled by technology. Few get it.


Exactly. I don't for a second think that the holocaust didn't happen but to throw someone in jail for expressing a different opinion is incredible.

You can see some in the U.S. that would do the same thing. Look at the calls to jail or blackball those that don't buy into the global warming scam or the "hate speech" laws that have been enacted over the last 20 years. All you have to do to get someone thrown in jail is to get their opinion labeled "hate speech" and you can have them arrested for expressing an opinion that isn't mainstream.




We should also remember that Germany is not the US, and does not have our constitutional structure, nor should we force such upon them. They are their own sovergnty after all
I haven't heard anybody here advocate forcing the Germans to do anything. The tone of those paying attention is more like, "lest it happen here". As to German sovereignty...there has been no "Gerexit". Thus they are part of the European union, which is more about removal of sovereignty. Then there are all those "refugees" flooding their country, raping their women and committing other crimes. Again, WGAF about the Germans? This is about our own free speech and when we are the last bastion, it isn't a stretch to see our own freedom waning.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
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Well,...if you want to say that, then say that. But you can't say that America's intent in WW2 was to stifle Communism. America's entry into WW2 enabled Communism.


A bit disingenuous, I think. Yes a valid argument but not doing so would have resulted in who knows what, except of course, the end of this country (and the West) as we know it. What SHOULD have been done, was a full out war in 1919 to crush the commies and help the White Russians, but after WWI, nobody had the stones. Kinda like today and for example Iran. We should have invaded and crushed them a long time ago and pretty soon it will be too late. Such is the danger of isolationists.


What's your thoughts on Patton?


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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And what illegitimacy would that be ... ?


"Jackson [Chief US prosecutor] is away conducting his high-grade lynching party in Nuremberg ... I hate to see the pretense that he is running a court and proceeding according to common law. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas."

- US Supreme Court Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone

"The Nuremberg trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history ... The Nuremberg farce represents a revenge policy at its worst."

- US Representative Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin

"As a representative of the American people I desire to say that what is taking place in Nuremberg, Germany, is a disgrace to the United States... A racial minority, two and a half years after the war closed, are in Nuremberg not only hanging German soldiers but trying German businessmen in the name of the United States."

- Congressman John Rankin of Mississippi

I could go on and on. Have you even made the slightest effort to scratch the surface of the received narrative regarding these proceedings, Indy?


Here is a prime example about lying about the Nuremberg trails. Based on opinions, not factual evidence.

Here is one of your sources:
From Wikipedia:
John Elliott Rankin (March 29, 1882 – November 26, 1960) was a Democratic congressman who served for sixteen terms from the U.S. State of Mississippi, from 1920 to 1952. He was co-author of the bill for the Tennessee Valley Authority and supported the New Deal programs of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, which brought investment and jobs to the South. He was described as a "racial demagogue", supporting racial segregation and white supremacy.
Rankin proposed a bill to prohibit interracial marriage and opposed a bill to prohibit state use of the poll tax, which southern states had used since the turn of the century to disenfranchise most blacks and many poor whites. He used his power to support segregation and deny federal benefits of varied programs to African Americans. For instance, in 1944, following the Port Chicago disaster, the U.S. Navy asked Congress to authorize payments of $5,000 to each of the victims' families. But when Rankin learned most of the dead were black sailors, he insisted the amount be reduced to $2,000; Congress settled the amount at $3,000 per family.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
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Well,...if you want to say that, then say that. But you can't say that America's intent in WW2 was to stifle Communism. America's entry into WW2 enabled Communism.


A bit disingenuous, I think. Yes a valid argument but not doing so would have resulted in who knows what, except of course, the end of this country (and the West) as we know it. What SHOULD have been done, was a full out war in 1919 to crush the commies and help the White Russians, but after WWI, nobody had the stones. Kinda like today and for example Iran. We should have invaded and crushed them a long time ago and pretty soon it will be too late. Such is the danger of isolationists.


It's not disingenuous one bit. It's a cold fact that America's entry into the war in Europe enabled Russia to spread Communism throughout Eastern Europe,....and by extension, Cuba.

Do you think Castro could have maintained his hold on Cuba without joining COMECON?

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Originally Posted by DryPowder
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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Well,...if you want to say that, then say that. But you can't say that America's intent in WW2 was to stifle Communism. America's entry into WW2 enabled Communism.


A bit disingenuous, I think. Yes a valid argument but not doing so would have resulted in who knows what, except of course, the end of this country (and the West) as we know it. What SHOULD have been done, was a full out war in 1919 to crush the commies and help the White Russians, but after WWI, nobody had the stones. Kinda like today and for example Iran. We should have invaded and crushed them a long time ago and pretty soon it will be too late. Such is the danger of isolationists.


What's your thoughts on Patton?

As a military leader or his political outlook? (Liked him all the way)


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
but to arrest someone for having an opposing view is sobering. Arrest them? Come on now.


Everyone who calls themself a Constitution believing American should ponder that post. Well said Mannlicher.

Here's a quote from a Jew, a former distant relative of mine...........................

“If it were not for the accident of my birth, I would be anti-Semitic. Any people who has been persecuted for two thousand years must be doing something wrong.” - Henry Kissinger



Along those lines, a very distant relative of mine and part of the Spanish "Realm", his title reads as follows: Marques De Casa De Calvo Y De La Puerta y MATA JUDIOS.. operative words in bold and dubious distinction earned during the Inquisition...

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I thought we all had the right to be stupid and openly display the fact as well.


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