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https://www.tractoptics.com/products/riflescopes/toric-uhd-30mm-4-20x50-ffp-moa

Got this email today....looks like a lot of scope for under $1200....hefty at 34 oz.

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Only 65 MOA of travel? Pictures look nice though.

Can we get one to pass around?


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Uh oh, time for some dropping and tossing......

Hope they got it right, but 65MOA isn't going to get it for the long rangers, for targets way out there anyway. That one is supposed to be for hunters. I like my Tekoa a good bit for my hunting, .......so far.


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I suspect there may be a pretty sizable number of hunters who like to shoot some long range that this scope might prove well suited for. I would like to try one, myself. But, as a policy, I don't throw my scopes around much.


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The one linked above is MOA (adjustments and ret), the one below is MIL (adjustments and ret). Nice to have both options and common sense that they match. Both have illumination. 65 MOA or 25 MIL are the listed adjustment ranges which some folks may find a problem with...it would be fine for me, but I'm not dialing that long. Heavy, but that's expected, same a Nightforce 4-16x50 (which has a 34mm tube)...except the Tract has a 5x zoom and a 30mm tube.

https://www.tractoptics.com/products/riflescopes/toric-uhd-30mm-4-20x50-ffp-mrad

Based on my experience with the Toric 2-10x42, if I was looking for something like this scope I'd go with it even with it being unproven. The Toric I've used has GREAT glass and dialing has been perfect so far...will work it more in the off season but I'm really liking it.

If it adjusts exactly and repeatably, for the price does anything come close to this?

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Good information, thanks. I have the Toric 3-15x42 although have not used it extensively. My experience has been good.


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Not horrible, but elevation travel isn’t what it should be and weight is more than it needs to be. LRHS/LRTS is still king of Long Range Hunting in my book.

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The adjustment numbers are off, I believe. If the MRAD version has 25 MRAD total adjustment, that’s not terrible, and is equivalent to about 86 MOA, not 65 MOA.

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For some reason, I'm mildly surprised to see that Tract is still in business, let alone bringing out new products.

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maybe their customers aren't members of the campfire...and they don't throw their scopes around.

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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
For some reason, I'm mildly surprised to see that Tract is still in business, let alone bringing out new products.



You should be surprised that leupold is still in business



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Reminds me of a shorter Weaver Tac 4-20x for some reason.

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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
For some reason, I'm mildly surprised to see that Tract is still in business, let alone bringing out new products.


I'm not. While the cheap tactical model tested by form had serious issues, even before the tough stuff started, the upper-end models (made in Japan, with glass-etched reticles) have done well in a review by JB, as well as in the hands of shooters, including me. The Torics and Tekoas have good glass and seem to work well and track okay. Time will tell if they're built well enough to hold up. The vast majority of users seem to be satisfied with Leupolds, Vortex, and mid-priced Bushnells and the like, and I think the better Tracts are at least as good as those.


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Hey you guys feel free to spend your money on products from an upstart company, hawked by a fast talking counter monkey who suckered people on this website into buying a few scopes, then mysteriously disappeared as soon as his wares were found lacking.

I'll spend my money elsewhere - for about the same price a guy could buy a Nightforce SHV 4-14......Nightforce is a known quantity, will likely be around in ten years for warranty work, and the resale is sure to be better.

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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Hey you guys feel free to spend your money on products from an upstart company, hawked by a fast talking counter monkey who suckered people on this website into buying a few scopes, then mysteriously disappeared as soon as his wares were found lacking.

I'll spend my money elsewhere - for the same price a guy could buy a Nightforce SHV 4-14......Nightforce is a known quantity, will likely be around in ten years for warranty work, and the resale is sure to be better.


If you were a hoarder you wouldn't have to worry so much about resale... grin

I'm holding out on cussing Tract until I see a problem with the one I'm using. I like more about the 2-10x42 Toric for hunting than any other scope I've used this season and that includes an NSX and a LRHS....and the Toric is substantially cheaper. Time will tell, season ends Saturday so I'll spend a lot more shooting and dialing with the scopes than the past couple of months. I hate for season to end but I'm looking forward to testing the scopes a bit more.

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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Hey you guys feel free to spend your money on products from an upstart company, hawked by a fast talking counter monkey who suckered people on this website into buying a few scopes, then mysteriously disappeared as soon as his wares were found lacking.

I'll spend my money elsewhere - for about the same price a guy could buy a Nightforce SHV 4-14......Nightforce is a known quantity, will likely be around in ten years for warranty work, and the resale is sure to be better.

Thank you, not that I needed permission to spend my money where I choose. Every company is an upstart in the beginning and the scope tested was their lower end model. If people were suckered into buying something they didn't want I haven't heard that complaint. Will watch with interest the responses to their new offering. Mean while have a plesant day.


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Pappy and Sidepass,

Jon LaCorte, co-founder of Tract, stated to me that all of their scopes, including the low end model that Formi tested, are designed and built to the same standard for zero retention.

I don't have a dog in this fight, and have never seen a Tract in person.

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Yeah, but what exactly does that mean? Kinda hard for scopes with different reticle designs (etched vs wire) to be " the same". The scope form tested had enough wiggle somewhere that the test rifle wouldn't group like it usually does. Clearly, something was amiss. A scope that costs less than $400 obviously has something of less quality or value than one from the same company that costs from close to $600 or more. Or should. Maybe they put them through the same tests, but there was an issue with QC, materials, or design that made that test scope flunk the basic test of letting that rifle shoot to its potential. My scope, so far, hasn't done that. If it does, I'll squawk. Until then, I have to say it's a good one, and well worth what I paid, based on my experience with one example of one model of scope. I'm not telling anyone what to buy, or carrying water for anyone, just relating events.



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