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I don't really consider Kroil (love the stuff) as a lubricating oil necessarily. I only use it to penetrate carbon fouling. Maybe I'm wrong. You are correct. Do NOT rely on Kroil for rust prevention either, despite several recommendations above and elsewhere on this forum to wipe down your guns with it. Kroil has zero rust prevention qualities, and very little lubrication. It is specifically designed to be as thin as possible for penetration, it is not a miracle do-all oil. The rust prevention is a pretty easy test for anyone who doesn't believe me, or is just wondering about a different oil. Just wipe a little on a piece of bare steel like you would on a gun and leave it outside for a couple weeks. For best results use a known good oil like CorrosionX on one part of the steel for comparison.
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Y'all don't just use rancid bear grease?
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All of these mad scientist potions remind of Grandpa Munster in his lab.
Have not put a single drop of oil on any of my many nice guns since 1976. Oil on a gun is a gumming agent. How do you protect against rust?
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Agree with the others Rem Oil is suspect. But you could thin it with Kroil and it would be alright for cleaning. Corrosion X and Ezox have worked well for rust protection. Will try Frog Lube and Hornaday 1 shot next time I stock up.
The concoctions work well for carbon fouling, Ed's Red, or ATF, STP, with either Kroil or Mystery Oil all work. Not brave enough to pour Mr. Clean Amonia down the barrel when there are so many good products out there for copper.
Bear grease is for the saddles and black powder patches.
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All of these mad scientist potions remind of Grandpa Munster in his lab.
Have not put a single drop of oil on any of my many nice guns since 1976. Oil on a gun is a gumming agent. How do you protect against rust? Remove all fingerprints with a dry soft cloth. Never had any problems.
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I have always liked Tri-Flow, but am now using Amsoil gun care products
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Lots of input for sure. Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm basically just looking for a light rust preventative. My trigger groups are run clean and dry. Firing pin assys are cleaned and wiped with a lightly oiled patch. I don't have any use for heavy oils. I'm looking for something thin,that doesn't leave a measurable,visible presence in or on a barrel / action. I have a little bit of Winchester(?) brand CLP. I like the function,but not the smell. I know the Rem Oil was cheap crap,but it was thin and light,and I never had any rust. Even with our humid summer weather. Now it's like motor honey. Cheap crap and thick to boot.
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Hoppe's #9 gun oil ? Clear, odorless, mineral oil. All "gun oil" is pretty damned pricy for what it is. I've used straight ATF for 30 years with no complaints. At work we use Mobil vactra oil #2 for lubing the pistols we build.
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Lots of input for sure. Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm basically just looking for a light rust preventative. My trigger groups are run clean and dry. Firing pin assys are cleaned and wiped with a lightly oiled patch. I don't have any use for heavy oils. I'm looking for something thin,that doesn't leave a measurable,visible presence in or on a barrel / action. I have a little bit of Winchester(?) brand CLP. I like the function,but not the smell. I know the Rem Oil was cheap crap,but it was thin and light,and I never had any rust. Even with our humid summer weather. Now it's like motor honey. Cheap crap and thick to boot. Try CorrosionX. It works awesome, smells like almonds, and the dispenser has a very pointed tip so you can squeeze out just tiny drops if desired. It's better than any CLP for rust prevention.
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Hoppe's #9 gun oil ? Clear, odorless, mineral oil. All "gun oil" is pretty damned pricy for what it is. I've used straight ATF for 30 years with no complaints. At work we use Mobil vactra oil #2 for lubing the pistols we build. Wow, Vactra #2? That's some pretty thick and sticky stuff (relative to gun oil), although it's certainly good at staying put and a great lubricant. It's what I use on my mill and lathe machine ways.
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Lots of input for sure. Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm basically just looking for a light rust preventative. My trigger groups are run clean and dry. Firing pin assys are cleaned and wiped with a lightly oiled patch. I don't have any use for heavy oils. I'm looking for something thin,that doesn't leave a measurable,visible presence in or on a barrel / action. I have a little bit of Winchester(?) brand CLP. I like the function,but not the smell. I know the Rem Oil was cheap crap,but it was thin and light,and I never had any rust. Even with our humid summer weather. Now it's like motor honey. Cheap crap and thick to boot. Consider RIG: RIG at MidwayUSA
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This+++
I have a soft baby coverlet from my oldest that I have been using for almost 30 years which is partially impregnated with RIG. I keep it in a quart ZIP lock to keep it clean.
My preparation of it was that I used it for about 3-4 year to wipe down excess grease after application of the RIG to the surface of my firearms.
Since then, it has maintained just the right amount of grease to clean away finger prints and adequately apply a thin coat to the gun for me.
So far, RIG has kept my blued guns rust free. Didn't see a purpose to experiment further.
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Found out fast Rem Oil wasn't any good up here. CorrosionX works and does a great job.
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OP.....did you try the aerosol can version? I had the same problem with the pump spray bottle but the aerosol works fine - if I use I always spray on a lint free cloth/towel and wipe down. I have never had a problem with rust or gumming of parts and I’ve hunted my rifles on some very cold hunts - guess I’m just lucky?!
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Otter- It is. It’s not sticky at all and flows like normal gun oil. Highly recommend.
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Read until you're heart is content; pick one of the better rust inhibitors and drive on. This is my opinion and it is worth what you paid for it; some of these oils are a jack of all trades and master of none. I use Eezox for rust protection, but I don't like it for lube, or at least on AR's and semi-auto handguns, for this I use Slip2000. Even use it on my semi-auto hunting shotguns. For cleaning, I always default to Bore Tech. These are the best products I've found in each category for my own personal use. http://www.dayattherange.com/?page_id=3667http://ronkulas.proboards.com/thread/274/review-comparison-gun-care-productshttp://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.htmlhttps://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/-/7-303402/&page=1
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How do you protect against rust?
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OP.....did you try the aerosol can version? I had the same problem with the pump spray bottle but the aerosol works fine - if I use I always spray on a lint free cloth/towel and wipe down. I have never had a problem with rust or gumming of parts and I’ve hunted my rifles on some very cold hunts - guess I’m just lucky?!
PennDog No I haven't.. It crossed my mind though.
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