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Ok, fine. Figure out how to make the case for that to the public. It might be a viable option. The point is not to continue preaching to the choir here but instead to get the message out to people who don't particularly want to hear it and aren't pre-disposed to believe it.

My first mission is to make sure as many people as possible know the truth about violent crime ijn the US. Read this thread, many if not most are buying the line that you see on every mainstream media show (including Fox) that we're in an epidemic of violence.

We had one of those. It was the 80's and early 90's.

I bring it up everywhere, but as long as too many people are buying into the propaganda being put out, I'll keep putting it here.

I didn't reference firearm violence - I referenced the homicide rate. You know, that thing directly related to the use of 'deadly" force.

We're taking the rap because nobody is standing up and saying the problem doesn't exist. Sure we can do better, but screw them for wanting to repeal the 2nd Amendment when we're in historic lows of homicides and child deaths from firearms.

Violent crime in general is at historic lows, there has been a slight up-tick starting in 2014. The MSM paints it as the worst of times to push forward their agenda.

Not really sure how to interprate this,The Fla.shooting was a clear example of many crimes "not" being reported.
Promise Act and all

Good point, but the crimes that he committed that weren't reported didn't involve anybody getting hurt. So his previous crimes wouldn't have been homicides or even violent crime.

Violent crime overall isn't at all time lows, but a lot better than it was for most of our history. Trouble there might be changing definitions.. now if you push your wife out of the doorway as you storm out of the house it becomes domestic violence and bumps up the violent crime rate.

Foxnews is still saying that it's unknown if the cop got him or if he shot himself. The cop fired but they don't know if he scored. Is there anything more recent?
Also, I see he used a handgun, not a fully automatic, mass killing, 50 caliber, flame throwing AR15 bazooka. I'm sure the press will still make a lot out of it.

That resource officer was not a coward!

So, the Gov. says not enough was done.

OK Gov-- what did you do??

This is Maryland.

The governor was talking about more gun control. In fact, he would be happy if all guns were confiscated.

He would think that's "enough"... But too stupid to know it wouldn't have stopped this.

Ambushes, leave you with no option to prevent the first shot or two. No law on earth, will change that. The officer was incredibly fast, and effective.

The SRO in question was also a SWAT officer.

I'm frankly surprised he was an SRO, and not the meter maids that you see in those jobs.

The Sheriff gave a good overview of what happened this morning. He was told in advance that he would turn it over to the POS Governor of Maryland, who then pontificated all the liberal buzzwords that the MSM could then report on. Grandstanding.

The sheriff could have been way more clear about who shot at who when the SRO engaged the shooter. Now everyone wants to know if the cop killed him, or he killed himself.

I hope the SRO got a round into him. Then I hope he offed himself. Just so the SRO does not have to hear what a good kid he was,BS.

Even if violent crime is at an all time low, the sensationalism of it is at an all time high.

He's employed by the State of Maryland, ultra liberal, and the Governor, ultra liberal, I say he was given his talking points. He did the best he could, and under those circumstances, he did pretty well.

Not sure it really matters whether the SRO shot him or the kid shot himself.

The engagement was ended because of the armed resistance.

When a lieberal *don't* tell the whole story, there's a reason.

+1

What can be done now? Pretty much nothing can be done to stop these from happening, all that can be done "now" is what was just done, have measures in place to quickly stop once started to minimize the death/injuries. Media is being very quiet about this one, probably due to not enough kids shot and a gun in the school stopped it.

What can be done long term? We can pontificate all we want about broken homes, single parents, video games, those are all ancillary issues, they contribute, but are not the root cause. there are two root causes:

1) Kids today are not held accountable, to many people excuse bad behavior rather than punish for it and hold them accountable so there is not fear of doing dumb things.
2) Social skills are lacking, things like problem solving and conflict resolution, basic interaction with others, those skills.

Solve those, and over time the issue will go away, probably not all the way cause there's always a "whack-a-doodle" out there, but this coddle mentality has to end.