Married a girl 20 years ago that was very good for me in every way. However, above in this thread a profound statement was made.
When a man marries a woman he thinks she will never change. ( this is a very critical part of understanding anything in this thread) When a woman marries a man she thinks she can change him. ( a huge mistake in judgement by nearly all females)
In my case she became addicted to painkillers and then alcohol and then substance abuse level insanity and finally suicide. This was quick by my standards too, like 3 years into the marriage. I learned after this that her biological brother was also in and out of rehab his entire life. The family felt this was a critical bit of data to hide from the embarrassment. Would have been a nice bit of data to know up front.
Never likely to be married again after that switcharoo personality change from the first time. That's not the fault of my long time current girl friend of 11 years. However, ....As they say once bitten twice shy.
Callie will most likely always be my best friend and my girlfriend. The wife option is not a looming interest for me. She could go either way on marriage I think. We are both over 50 and get along better than is humanly possible. However we both also both know that either of us can bail and move on without any financial connections. This situation creates a more dedicated focus on the concern of the other persons needs and wishes.
There would be no complicated or stressful divorce involved. It would simply be " see ya" and done. That alone creates a more dedicated effort to stay dialed into one another. It's a constant "girlfriend effort" to stay together. On the other hand there is also the same for her, I can make financial decisions for my retirement that I decide completely and control entirely. I can decide to go diving in Egypt in the red sea this June and I don't need to ask about it or hope it's not a massive stressful conversation. I just say " I'll be gone for three weeks this summer"
This is the best situation for older folks without having any kids together. It is not a great relationship for parents sharing the care of young children. I'm no longer able to understand the need to pay for a tax like a marriage license that really provides me with no benefits at all? The Gays have created some rather interesting options for heterosexual couples. Callie is on my employments health care program, and she can drive my company provided vehicle now. Because they cannot deny me " domestic partner" status. That would be discrimination.
So for my life I actually do have my cake and I can eat it too! It's delicious! Thanks to the gay rights crap, it's been good for me!
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This has by far turned into the longest post I've ever started. Thanks to those that have offered some real advise, and I hate to see people arguing about religion.
My advice is to find ladies that make the bells and whistles go off, four is a nice round number. Get into the relationships with the idea you are going to dump them. In my case I found the ladies that make the bells and whistles go off are stark raving mad, lunatics. One you prove to yourself you can get into and out of a relationship, you will be in a mental / emotional position that trust yourself that you dump the lady should she prove to be problematical. Find a lady you share interests with. I like to bake bread, wife likes to make pasta and home made sauce. She's of Italian descent. We both like gardening, antiquing, etc. A mutual friend had me be what would be my wife's birthday present. We were both dating other people so we chatted, etc for a year or so before we started exchanging recipes
"Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson
This is a description of my wife . . . Proverbs 31
The Virtues of Noble Woman
10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.
12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.
15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.
16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.
18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.
19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.
20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.
23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.
24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.
25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.
26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.
27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.
28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.
30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.
31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.
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