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I really don't lose sleep over gitmo or rendition matters either.

Don't eat things that still twitch in the stomach after ya chew em up.
Seen plenty of Jules Verne 20,000 leagues under the sea things, running riser and blow out stacks up from
the ocean floor to know I didn't want to partake in them.

Very interesting detailed information at the link below with most of it I've never heard before on the Axis POWs and POW camps located in the USA, what went on and how they were run.

A couple of the things that really surprised me were that regular military and POW officers were paid via canteen vouchers, the officers pay increased according to rank, The other thing was a problem of unabashed racism and contempt between the different country's POWs held in the same camps and even between different branches of the same country's military.

http://www.militarymuseum.org/japanese%20prisoners%20of%20war%20in%20america.pdf

Another example of the U.S.'s not-so-good record of respecting cultural differences and civil rights. It was wrong to single out the Japanese-American CITIZENS and send them to concentration camps simply because of their Japanese ancestry. Many (2/3 nisei) were American-born CITIZENS.

The anti-Japanese hatred and hostility got carried away in punishing ALL Japanese Americans, many of whom had never even been to Japan. Prejudice, racism, and rabid hysteria, along with presidential endorsement, prevailed. Lots of fools rushed in and made rash decisions.

Too bad the "dangerous enemy aliens" had to wait 40 years to get a formal apology.

God love you Sir.

Had 2 great uncles that were pows to the Japanese. Uncle Walt and Uncle Harry. Uncle Harry was never the same (read bat [bleep] crazy) after watching his friends and comrades beheaded by sword for no reason. Uncle Harry was not completely well adjusted either after his experiences.

It’s not that simple or we wouldn’t need bilingual teachers in California, Texas and Florida.

Wheres that like button

"Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere"...

In others words our country has limited resources.
So we will just conquer and exploit your country.

Need? We need?

No. They need. If they had to pay for it they'd learn.

I would suggest that the Hispanics you speak of are not Americans. They are merely United States citizens. There is a difference. No one who is truly an American would ever suggest that they are anything else.

sorry jorge, i don't think you are entirely correct.
it is my understanding that churchhill started the attacks on berlin, hitler responded after the british hit berlin a number of times by ordering the attacks on london.

i dislike hypens. i called up a radio guy once that kept saying hispanic americans.
i commented it got really difficult with my half sisters kids.
How so"
well, that would be croat/slavic/spanish/mexican/polish jew/gila indian.
it gets to be a mouthful.

well sometimes it's a little difficult. My aunt sarah, my adopted aunt so to speak, real aunt to my half sister, was in her 80's. I being stupid asked her one day if she was a U.S. citizen? She politely said, that is really a dumbazz question, ronnie, why do you ask? I said just curious. She said she was, but she didn't rightly know where she was born. What? Her answer was when you are born in the back of a buckboard wagon headed north somewhere south of tucson, they didn't have big signs out in territorial days welcome to america. That kind of shut me up.

Sort of. The RAF bombed Tempelhof airport on 25 Aug 1940. How accurate they were I have no idea but the airport was the target not Berlin the city. On 7 Sept the Germans dropped on London with the city as the target. The Germans had already bombed the city of Rotterdam as a general target so not a far reach for them.

After that the gloves were off for all hands. We (the US) bombed "military targets" but daylight precision raids were anything but so we certainly dropped a fair amount in cities.

Certainly London bore the brunt of early raids as you can see - http://bombsight.org/#15/51.5050/-0.0900

That was an excellent read. Quote from the first Japanese POW captured right after the Pearl Harbor attack:

'The key to it all, Sakamaki concluded, was the concept of democracy. "I learned it as a prisoner. It was the best education of my life." '

There was a German /Italian internment camp right outside Laredo TX in Crystal City called Crystal city camp and my mom said that on the way out to the ranch my grandfather would pull over in front of the camp and they would listen to all the accordions playing for a while before moving on..

Lucio Vidaurri III

Manzanar is right off of Rt 395 coming up thru eastern CA...I stopped of the side of the road to catch some sleep late
one night, and woke up at 6AM.... old 395 runs parallel to new 395... two lane hwy only...I had pulled onto old 395 to catch
a few winks.. noticed the camp in the early morning light...

didn't know what it was, but knew it was military of some sort growing up as a military dependent...

turned out to be Manzanar. I probably spent 3 or 4 hours just walking the grounds of it.

it was almost like you could feel the ghosts that the war left there...

had the same feelings when I use to walk the airfields and left over barracks/Nissen Huts
still standing at some of the old WW 2 bases there in England in my youth...

I know someone who spent his youth there during WW 2....him being 16 when the war ended...

in 1948 he went on to serve in the new USAF......

Not a monument like Manzanar.. but there is also what remains of a Internment Camp at Tule Lake CA.
it was a much smaller camp.. but it is still like you can feel the ghosts
from WW 2, still walking those grounds....

I've had the pleasure to know and meet Japanese, Neisei or first generation, who were interned at those camps
during WW2.....

Friends of the family were interned at Camp Savage in MN during the War. The volunteered and translated
Japanese for the Pys Ops unit at Ft Snelling during the war....there were transported daily back and forth
between Camp Savage and Ft Snelling....

in 1944, they were allowed to rent an 'apartment' in a house in St Paul.. it was a small farm house, and the owners
were German Immigrants from after WW1.. who also worked at Ft Snelling translating stuff from and into German
for the Pys Ops unit...

in the early 80s, they were back in MN for the first time since the war ended....we had them as guests at our
house.... the last day before they flew home to California, they asked a 'special favor' of me....

to take them down to what had been Camp Savage... I didn't know where it was, but they certainly did, despite
suburbia growing out that way..... and then they asked me to take them down Old Shakopee Rd, which was the old
road from the Dan Patch Bridge over the MN River, to Ft Snelling, which is decommissioned, but what is the Mpls/St.Paul
airport use to be a part of it...

Much of the old base is still standing altho boarded up... large old brick buildings...

They immediately found the building they use to work in, right off the parade field....

They had me take a few pictures of them standing in front of that building.. which was kinda
hard with all the tears of remembering they were experiencing...

Their visit was a touching memory I'll never forget, that's for darn sure....

That picture I took for them..they had enlarged and framed.....they sent a picture of it to me,
along with right next to it, was a picture of the same size, where they were standing in the same spot
in 1945, when they were released from their internment and service to the US Military.. and allowed to
return home to California.. Los Angeles...40 years earlier...

I'm coming to this thread WAY late. But I'll just say this....

Following the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor by the Japs, locking up the japs was the right move. It's about winning the war, not being nice. Doing the same to Muzzy's after 9-1-1 would have been a smart move, also. And it would have prevented a number of follow-up terrorist attacks by muslims.

I recently read that 120,000 total Japanese Americans were interned in WWII. How many of these do you think were tried for espionage?

Despite rigorous investigations by the feds, the answer is...not one!

10 people were convicted of spying for Japan in WWII. All 10 were Caucasians.