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"I still think a convicted felon should have to apply for a pardon from his/her Governor to get his/her gun or voting rights back. Losing these rights is part of the game you play."

I don't think that would work. There would be so many applications that the Governor's office would be swamped. Here in Arizona, a felon once he/she has completed their sentence including parole can apply to the court that convicted them for restoration of ALL civil rights. It's done by court order. The judge is the one most familiar with the case so would be the most qualified to make the decision.

I also think there should be a strong three strikes law.

First offense: The judge has discretion on probation, jail time. Certain felonies exempt and full sentencing requiried. (Murder, Manslaughter rape ect.)

Second offense: Standard sentence doubled. No parole, no probation and no early out.

Third offense: Mandatory death penalty. Repeat offenders are a cancer on society. If you had a cancerous tumor you would be hoping the doctor would be removing it in one hell of a hurry. Maybe bringing back public executions just might be the deterrent needed.

Hell! What do I know? I'm just a grumpy 80 YO man that's sick and tired of seeing bad guys turned loose early, especially when some of them should be swinging from a gallows.
Paul B.

I hear you PJ. Thanks for your comments.

Good post.

If one piece of the Constitution gets compromised, it's just a short drive to the 2nd piece and then to the 3rd piece. It's what ever is politically convenient for the liberal left. It's not about what is right and fair, it's about power and control. It's always been about power and control. Have we all forgotten about Nikita Khrushchev banging his shoe on his desk at the UN telling us we would fall from the inside ?? I guess that's why there are no longer civics and government classes in the high schools. The liberal left doesn't want to remind folks what he said and that he meant it.

As the NRA says, Stand and Fight ! It's on the bumper sticker on my redneck and rusty Ford pickup for all to see.

kwg

The problem with anti gunners is that no matter how much you give them, it is never enough. They always want more. They take a little at a time until they have got all of it. Never compromise on your rights. The Bill of Rights are sacred to this country. It's what sets us apart. If you don't like it. You have every right to move somewhere else where you will have less rights.

IN-CRE-MENTAL-ISM

Smoke pot; the drug war is lost✌️

Thank you and thank you for standing.

Listening to Rush today and he's spot on, the liberal have no interest in compromise. NONE. And if they can get rid of the 2nd amendment then they'd also like to get rid of the 1st amendment. So it is true, we MUST not compromise. we MUST stand united.

One of the upsides to coming to this site is fellowshipping, to borrow a biblical term, with all those of like-mind. A downside is when you get those who are gun owners who still want to appease and toady to the anti's. It gladdens my heart to see all those on this post agreeing that we must not give the anti's ANYTHING.

It's at once about coming together regardless of differences on other things, and standing hard against those who would disarm us. It's all about the guns. Yet it isn't. It's about an even more base instinct and that is defending one's self and one's loved ones and even one's property against the forces of evil. Property even, as without that, who will live and who will die? It may not be as stark today, but in the old days, what happened when the King's men came and confiscated all your grain to feed their armies and whores? Your family starved during the winter. This is all about the guns, but then it's about a whole lot more.

God bless all y'all. God bless the USA.

...and ignore the length of the sentence? Baloney!

Well, CD4570, if you are so rich you can afford to buy a battleship, an aircraft carrier, and lots of bombers, hire the sailors, pilots and crews, and all the equipment and supplies including all the ordinance to maintain same ..... I say, "Go for it!"

L.W.

That fairly well sums it up.

Hang together or hang separately. Well said EE. We really have no other choice. The thing about Trump winning is that the left has now exposed themselves for all those doubters to see.

The real moment of decision will come when you have to decide if the time has come to do what the founders wrote the 2nd for. They put their lives on the line to create this nation. Are we worthy?

I’m just trying to fit in.

Never ever back off of the 2nd. Not 1 inch.

Far too many people have bought in to the proposition that if you don't personally like someone else's firearms it's ok to take or ban them. I don't own a bump stock so why not allow the government to ban everyone's right to own one. It's a slippery slope that ends up getting us into terrible trouble. The argument that "it's only reasonable gun control" is bogus. THERE IS NO REASONABLE GUN CONTROL!! All roads lead to the same place and that is to disarm us all.

Well, how do you propose we can do this where the majority of States have completely ignored the 08 Hella decision?

We need make sure no other rights are taken away while at the same time working to restore those rights that have been taken away unconstitutionally..

A pretty good shot at "doing this" is to pass the Convention of States. Get some term limits on judicial appointments and congressional seats. Vote out any legislator that is not in favor of actually following the oath of office they all take. We need to band together and fight for our Second Amendment freedoms and the other amendments as well. Whether we personally like a bump stock is not an issue. What is at issue is giving up our right to own one. When one of us is diminished, all of us are diminished.

Individual states can do what they are willing to do but a strong Supreme Court that upholds the constitution as it was written will guard against rogue actions of the individual states. As it is our SC is just half assed in favor of the Second Amendment. Individual states rogue laws might stand for several years before the SC get's off their ass and rules and then it's anybody's guess where the swinging idiots on the court will land on a particular issue.

Our rights are being pecked away at one by one and we are doing nothing. In fact when we allow something like bump stock chicanery to get by unopposed we are allowing another step in abdicating our rights guaranteed by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.