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I'd fast twist a 22-250 and be done. But I'm pragmatic +P.
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I'd fast twist a 22-250 and be done. But I'm pragmatic +P.
Travis You must like trimming. Brass. I meant brass.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2
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8 twist as a factory spec is a big deal, IMO.
I have a custom 8 twist .22-250 with Shilen barrel.
But factory .22-250’s don’t come with fast twist, CM’s do.
DF
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Can't remember the last time I trimmed any 22-250.
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Yeah, it's got a 28-degree shoulder, almost the same as the Creedmoor's 30 degrees.
Which is probably the biggest advantage the .22 Creedmoor has over the .22-250 AI. The head tech at one of the major powder companies says the 30-degree shoulder angle so popular among "accuracy" cartridges is the real deal. He see's less pressure and velocity variation with shoulders around 30 degrees than shoulder angles much less or more, whether the 20-degree shoulders of .308-based rounds, or the 40-degree shoulders of Ackley Improveds.
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John Steinbeck
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The Luddite in me likes the 22/250 with a 1/8 twist, and as Deflave says I have not noticed excessive trimming issues.
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Friends, I seldom post any more on the 24HCF, mostly because of the hatred and anger that currently RULES here.
I must comment that Pat is a long-time friend and an exceedingly fine judge of all things currently gunny.
Given that, and Pat Sinclair's judgment, which I trust totally, I would favor the .22 Creedmoor over the .22-250 Ackley Improved.
Blessings,
Steve
We miss you Steve and hope for your return.
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Friends, I seldom post any more on the 24HCF, mostly because of the hatred and anger that currently RULES here.
I must comment that Pat is a long-time friend and an exceedingly fine judge of all things currently gunny.
Given that, and Pat Sinclair's judgment, which I trust totally, I would favor the .22 Creedmoor over the .22-250 Ackley Improved.
Blessings,
Steve
We miss you Steve and hope for your return. +1 DF
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Friends, I seldom post any more on the 24HCF, mostly because of the hatred and anger that currently RULES here.
I must comment that Pat is a long-time friend and an exceedingly fine judge of all things currently gunny.
Given that, and Pat Sinclair's judgment, which I trust totally, I would favor the .22 Creedmoor over the .22-250 Ackley Improved.
Blessings,
Steve
Steve, it's taken a lot of shiit talk, even some threats, but it's settled down it appears... stick around you seem like a good dude. Later
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
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Ain’t easy havin pals.
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I am the 22-250 ai with a quick twist barrel camp.
If needed all i have to do is shoot the parent round and i am set for brass.
They do shoot accurately as well.
And i don't use loads that are the same as the parent,it was made to do better.
Now fire away.
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The last time I trimmed my 22-250 brass was when I was shooting a Rem 788 in that chamber. After switching to Rem 700 actions, no trimming as I recall. I have both the 22-250 and the 22-250 AI in fast twist barrels.
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Luck....is the residue of design... ![[Linked Image]](http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp311/patrickgsinclair/96zvyt.gif)
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22-creedmoor is tempting now with brass available.
22-250AI = Can borrow a reamer, cheap dies and brass, can fire factory loads, very slightly higher velocity.
22 Creedmore = Better design, good brass (not cheap), dies bushing or custom $$, Not sure about reamer availability.
22 x 47mm = Maybe the best case design, slightly better barrel life, better fit in a short action for 80 gr. bullets, expensive dies (Wilson, Whidden, or Reddington $$-$$$?) Would have to buy a reamer.
What else am I leaving out? Re-sale who cares?
If I was to be practical then I would just get an 8 twist standard 22-250 and go hunting.
"When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred." Niccolo Machiavelli
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The biggest disadvantage of any of the Creedmoor rounds is how few people can spell their name.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
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The biggest disadvantage of any of the Creedmoor rounds is how few people can spell their name. Cracking me up, John! Good one!
Luck....is the residue of design...
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Glad to start your day with a laugh, Pat!
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
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The biggest disadvantage of any of the Creedmoor rounds is how few people can spell their name. 
Ben
Some days it takes most of the day for me to do practically nothing...
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Thanks JB. No wonder dies are harder to find the Creedmore has the top secret 31.5 degree shoulder.
"When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred." Niccolo Machiavelli
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4D reamer rental has 22x47 Lapua reamers in stock.....reamer and go gauge for $39.00.
No crapmores though......
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Can't remember the last time I trimmed any 22-250.
Travis But I thought the only reason to "Ackley" anything was to negate trimming....
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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