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A guest caller on Rush recommended the military invade Mexico and occupy a 5-mile wide buffer zone so that illegals marching to the border can be stopped on Mexican soil and never allowed to cross over onto U.S. soil. When Rush asked him what he thought the Mexican government would do about the U.S. military invading Mexico, the caller chuckled and said "what can they do?" Rush chuckled as well.

I think that the title should be "Beaking, US Militay to guad bode", just to be consistent. (Just having some fun - we all get our tangers fingled up from time to time.)

Now that I actually think about it
We was doing that stuff in the fall of 92 and 93

The pot industry is "legal" in those fugged up west coast states now.

And today's growers are doing it legal in green houses and farms.

No need for em to bust their asses anymore growing out in the national parks.

Main reason we was out their was because of non cooperation of those
states governors to allow their state national guardsmen to be federalized
and do those missions in the 1st place

All a moot point now when ya think about it.

In the absence of da fence, use the Department of Defense. Been calling for it for years. Finally, a President with brass!

would substantially cut back drugs as well I suspect.

I doubt the military actually does guard the border but I love reading Trump say it.

From the Federalist this morning, before this latest news.

The 1,200 Migrants Heading For The U.S. Expecting Amnesty Are Playing Right Into Trump’s Hands



A caravan of 1,200 Central Americans headed for the United States could provoke a crisis that forces us to face the root causes of our failed immigration system.
John Daniel Davidson
By John Daniel Davidson
April 3, 2018

A caravan of some 1,200 Central Americans now trekking through Mexico, most of them Hondurans bound for U.S. ports of entry, has already begun to change the immigration debate in America.

Organized by a left-wing group called Pueblos Sin Fronteras, or People Without Borders, the stunt is brazen and reckless enough that it might just force U.S. policymakers to reevaluate America’s long-standing—and obviously failed—policy of strategic neglect toward Mexico and Central America.

According to a report by BuzzFeed on Friday, the caravan marched unopposed into Mexico from Guatemala last week, and since then “have boldly crossed immigration checkpoints, military bases, and police in a desperate, sometimes chaotic march toward the United States. Despite their being in Mexico without authorization, no one has made any effort to stop them.”

This presents the Trump administration with a unique challenge, especially if Mexico stands aside and allows the caravan to reach the U.S.-Mexico border. Mexico has a long history of failing to exercise sovereignty within its own territory, and the United States has a corresponding history, mostly forgotten today, of cross-border intervention when American interests were at stake.

If Mexican authorities prove unable or unwilling to stop the migrant caravan, President Trump could make the case that America has a compelling national interest in ensuring such caravans don’t reach the U.S. border, and that drastic measures, or the credible threat of such measures, are entirely appropriate.

Of course, an incursion into Mexico by the U.S. military would be a huge risk and it’s therefore extremely unlikely. But the existence of the caravan nevertheless represents a unique opportunity to change the parameters of an otherwise stale immigration debate in the United States—to shift from talking about enforcement tactics (like a border wall) to the root cause of mass migration: the collapse of civil society in places like Honduras and parts of Mexico.
Trump Says DACA Deal Is Off the Table

In fact, Trump might be laying the groundwork for such a shift. He took to Twitter Sunday night to denounce “ridiculous” U.S. immigration laws, Mexico, Democrats, and an amnesty deal, which he says is now off the table.

A number of media outlets were quick to point out that the Central Americans in the caravan are not eligible for President Obama’s Deferred Action for Child Arrivals (DACA) executive order, which is technically correct but misses the point.

Trump brought up DACA, which protects some foreign citizens who were illegally brought to the United States as children, to highlight the fact that Democrats were unwilling to strike any kind of DACA deal, balking at even modest reforms to the immigration system and funding for Trump’s border wall. Democrats’ unwillingness to compromise, argues Trump, is all the proof you need that they don’t really want to secure the border, that they’re fine with uncontrolled mass immigration, and that he shouldn’t be expected to compromise with them.

On Monday, Trump continued in this vein, urging Senate Republicans to use the “nuclear option” and abandon the legislative filibuster so they can pass tougher immigration laws. Later on Monday, the White House released a statement expounding on what Trump had referred to, in an earlier tweet, as “ridiculous liberal (Democrat) laws like Catch & Release.”

Citing the numbers of unaccompanied minors and trespassing families U.S. officials have released into the country with orders to appear before a judge, the statement explained how current law limits the government’s ability to return illegal migrants to their home countries. “In the absence of lasting solutions to the problems that riddle our immigration system,” it read, “we can only expect the flow of illegal immigration into our country to continue.”
The Caravan Could Trigger a Crisis

But what is a “lasting solution” to our immigration problems? It’s not a border wall, nor is it simply loosening the laws that govern deportations and asylum proceedings. When hundreds or thousands of migrants are willing to trek through Mexico in massive caravans and present themselves at U.S. ports of entry to claim asylum—knowing they won’t get asylum but will be released into the United States—then it’s time to stop talking about walls and start thinking about major policy shifts.

Make no mistake: if the caravan reaches the U.S. border, it will be a disaster on several levels. At the most basic level, it will be a humanitarian crisis. Depending on where groups of migrants decide to cross, food, water, and exposure will be an immediate problem. Vast stretches of the U.S.-Mexico border are sparsely populated and geographically harsh. Facilities to house and feed hundreds of families for more than a day or two simply do not exist along the border. Most of those who manage to cross into the United States would have to be released before long.

While Border Patrol is dealing with all that, drug cartels would no doubt take advantage of the situation. While I was on a reporting trip to the Rio Grande Valley last month, Border Patrol agents told me that when unaccompanied minors began showing up in large numbers in 2014, it swamped their resources and left vast stretches of the border un-monitored. Drug cartels sent over large groups of minors on purpose, they said, as a diversionary tactic. A group of 80 or 90 children and families surrendering to Border Patrol would tie up every agent in that area for the entire day, allowing smugglers to ferry drugs across an unguarded border with impunity.

All of this would in turn trigger a political crisis that very well might accrue to Trump’s advantage. In some ways, the caravan is the worst possible development for Democrats, who have painted themselves into a corner on immigration by betting the future of their party on a rigid form of identity politics. For much of the Democratic Party’s base, “border security” is tantamount to racism.

If it appears the caravan is going to reach the U.S.-Mexico border, will Democrats even express alarm? Will they offer platitudes about the rule of law? Or will they finally admit that what they really want are open borders, mass immigration, and amnesty?

I'd like to see some dead bodies.

Strafe the schit out of them...I'm dead serious.

DMZ

looking at the pictures Maybe we can get the Army to shoot all those mothers and little kids, We have illegals thru here almost every day and night, they are almost as big a pain in the A$$ as the Border Patrol we do need a DMZ on the Mexico border but it will never happen.

The border wall is a JOKE and spending money on it is stupid, they will climb over it cut thru or go under it, it will be like building a high fence to keep the birds in, we can stop this invasion all we need to do is enforce the laws we have on the books now. but that will never happen no matter who is in the White House. This is all Bull$hitt you better start taking Spanish lessons, some may disagree with me but I am right they are wrong. Rio7

Even if we had to do it to our side of the border
Imminent domain
Tick off a bunch of our own citizens for sure..


1mile in depth buffer....

Give land owners 4x market value and what they would make for a period
Of 10-20 yrs from the land, better than what many have got from imminent domain
stuff done in the past.


Never happen........

There is a lot of law governing both refugee and asylum status and this BS with sending troops to the border will be decided in court. It will not be decided soon either.

Sign me up. I'll stand a post for my 2 weeks of Annual Training

Bush did do this.




Dave

Well said, Rio!

But what do WE know?

The border wall only carries importance to those that live hundreds of miles from the border. It's only a tool, and that tool is only as effective as the administration cracking the whip... (Or not,)

Huge waste of money. But people have to have their illusions of security.

Yes, it'll take a DMZ. You know that, and I know that, but it's pretty hard to convince people so far away from ground zero... They see the wetbacks and know there's a problem, but are disillusioned with what will fix it. Unfortunately, the majority have bought the "Great Wall" story hook, line and sinker.

get ready for a 2 week vacation in the company of some nice FBI boys

I've suggested that numerous times on multiple sites going back at least ten years. A lot of people laugh at the notion of a wall because of the Rio Grande, canyons, etc. Push into Mexico as far as need be and put the wall up on level ground, making the area between it and the legal border a no-man's land. Forget all the Border Patrol checkpoints 200 miles into the USA. [bleep] that. Anybody caught without reason to be there gets to work on the wall or maintaining it. Shoot to kill orders on anybody that gets across and then tries to cross into one of our states. Vincente Fox can suck my cock.

some years ago, i took my gold wing down the altar valley, aka "cocaine valley" to sasabe on the border. This was after janet neopolitano deploy or okay deployment of some national guard on the border. They had listening posts, no ammo, and in at least one case had to retreat from the post as mexicans were approaching. They had tents set up within sight of the border crossing at sasabe, and i stopped to look at that.
this nice young kid from tennessee came out and we talked for a while. He had no idea that close to the border particularly i had a pistola under my leg. He was unarmed.
I commented watch your six, this is not a good place to be after dark. He was just doing what he was told to do, but was completely out of his element.
I have had some discussions with B.P. guys, when i stopped to talk, that basically were sitting in a truck looking bored, but couldn't really tell me any of the surroundings, unfamilar with the area.
I can't think of an area along the southern arizona border, that any advance of that size wouldn't be well known prior to them attempting to cross.
and it a lot of areas they wouldn't get very far without support, the ground is just too tough.

Now that’s just f’d up. There are babies and youngsters, man. Nobody needs to be killed. Just enforce the law.

Time to get the band back together: