After two or three shoot/clean cycles, the DBC treated bore gets even easier to clean. I never use a brush following DBC, just soak with a good cleaner like Wipe Out.
I have premium barrels so treated that just about don't foul. I'll see some carbon residue, minimal to no copper fouling and that's thru the Hawkeye.
After two or three shoot/clean cycles, the DBC treated bore gets even easier to clean. I never use a brush following DBC, just soak with a good cleaner like Wipe Out.
I have premium barrels so treated that just about don't foul. I'll see some carbon residue, minimal to no copper fouling and that's thru the Hawkeye.
All I know is the stuff works. My primary elk rifle is a 1968 Sako 338 with a Bofors steel barrel. Before DBC you could open your own copper mine in it after a shooting session. Did the DBC trick using the old instructions and clean up is a breeze. Shot it this weekend and after this fall's elk hunt and this weekend's shooting it was time. 2 hours with Wipe Out and three patches had her clean as a whistle. Love DBC.
You only live once, but...if you do it right, once is enough.
And each gunsmith--and some barrel makers and gunsmiths say it isn't necessary.
Plus, I do know a couple of custom gunsmiths who list a break-in technique on their website, even though they don't believe it's necessary. But so many of their customers kept asking about a break-in technique--with many getting huffy when the 'smiths said it wasn't necessary--that they finally caved, just to avoid answering phone calls and e-mails that often ended up in arguments with their customers.
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I know how to work as a consulting engineer and I know how to hire and supervise engineers. I own zillions of rifles and barrels I put on them from Hart, Lilja, Shilen, Bartlein, Krieger, PacNor, Lothar Walther, Benchmark, etc. If I were my own boss, I would fire me for not being able to quantitatively demonstrate how Moly is helping or hurting me over the last 16 years. I would also be fired for a lot of other accuracy related rituals that I can only justify with a hunch.
The trouble is that controlled experiments in accuracy take too much time, money, effort, and skill for the individual. Even if we did that, individual human beings are not very logical: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias
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MD's write up in the latest Rifle magazine is a very worthwhile read. Buy the magazine just for that article.
Bugger,
I see you just posted this the other day. What issue of Rifle are you referring too as they come a month or more in advance of the month on the cover it seems. March issue I have has his article on "Parts Rifles".
Thanks in advance for your help.
OOPS. My bad, I found the issue in question, arrived the other day with other stuff and got overlooked. As this lady was fond of saying:
Geno
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My system [loosly based on Walt Berger's system 18 years ago] is: 1) Moly coat the bullets, not in a medium, but in a plastic container put in the Thumler's Tumbler. 2) Bore coat the barrels and fire them a few times. 3) Clean bore with powder solvent on a patch. 4) Dry patch 5) KG12 on a patch 6) wait 5 minutes 7) Dry patch. 8) 20 strokes (Kroil and Flitz) or (Witches Brew) on a bronze brush (of diameter greater than groove diameter, check brush diameter often.) 9) wait 5 minutes 10) 20 strokes (Kroil and Flitz) or (Witches Brew) on a bronze brush (of diameter greater than groove diameter, check brush diameter often.) 11) Alcohol on a patch 12) dry patch 13) Inspect bore at muzzle with magnification and a light. 14) If an Copper is seen return to step 5), if perfectly clean return to shooting
My system does not have believe in break in to do it.
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After cleaning and prior to applying Dyna-Tek bore coat do any of you patch with alcohol or another light solvent to remove residual traces of cleaning solvents/solutions?
Originally Posted by 16penny
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
I have tried with Google to find any mention that "DynaTek Bore Coat Alcohol Cleaner" is anything other than alcohol, and I cannot.
I have been using alcohol in the bore as the last step in getting a clean bore since I started applying moly on the bore in 1999 ~ 2001.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps