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I"m not sure what the come on is? LC worked well enough that we never looked further. It used to be something on the lines of 15 or 19 per 1000... and in lots of instances totally free.

LC would shoot 3 inch or less at 600, my best test group load was 5 shots at 600 at appx 1.25 inches ( used ruler, didn't really care). That was a hummer barrel though. Wished it had been my barrel. LOL

My rule was 10 shot groups at 300 of 2 inches or less, and 5 shot test groups of 4 inches or less at 600, followed by 22 shot strings in matches to prove or disprove a load. LC got us there.

Mathman's done some test with LC brass. Although they were primarily in .308 he found it to be very consistent in case volume and neck thickness. Add in good metallurgy for long lasting cases, and LC's a good value proposition, if you don't mind removing the crimp.

I agree with you guys. No one is wrong here. Many ways to get er done. Whether you scrounge up once fired brass from the range, buy fully prepped once fired stuff, have the tools and patience to remove the crimp, at least you are out there shooting!!!!!! I just got back from the range. Had a little session with my ar10 308 and 3 different types of brass. I wish i could find that chit laying around like i do .223 rem brass! I stepped over a couple hundred pieces of that today. Didnt pick up a damn 1 either. Ive got 223 brass coming out of my ears over here... ill post results of how my new ar10 shot in another thread..

I doubt I'll ever resize another 5.56 case. I buy prepped Lake city brass on line, load it up and spray empties all over the place.

When I run low I buy more.

PS - keep checking brass sites for deals and buy when the price is low.

I'll just keep running over that brass at the range too... .. Pray and spray shooters, bless your souls..

I went with the 500 rounds of the Winchester LC 5.56 NATO FMJ 55g for $149.59 with free shipping. I was having a tough time beating that price by much with free brass. I still plan to acquire the components, but I'll try to do it locally to avoid shipping and hazmat fees. There's a decent gun show next weekend...

WINCHESTER .. LC brass? A new one on me.

It was a new one for me as well.


Winchester Lake City Ammo

Hornady has a partnership with LC also it seems:

https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/frontier#!/

That's where I ordered from. Cheaper Than Dirt currently has free shipping over $50 and a $10 coupon.

Never knew that about the other contracts. Wild. Times change.

Thanks.

That explains why Winchester started crimping the primers on some of their 5.56 Ammo.

Let the feeding begin!

JOG,
Is that ammo headstamped WIN or LC?

The Cheaper Than Dirt blurb:

Lake City Army Ammunition Plant has extended its facilities and equipment to Winchester to load their Mil-Spec brand of ammunition using Lake City Mil-Spec components; bullet, primer, powder and brass. In the recent past, Federal was the exclusive source for Lake City ammunition, but now you can purchase ammunition loaded in the Lake City Plant from Winchester. Lake City Army Ammunition Plant now contracts to build Mil-Spec, consumer ammunition are now shared with Federal, Winchester, and Hornady. The last time we saw Mil-Spec, Lake City, M193 ammo from Winchester was the Q3131 white box that was loaded in the Lake City Plant back when Olin ran the plant. Welcome the return of the Winchester Mil-Spec ammunition, loaded by a name you trust, backed by Lake City quality, and priced very competitively.

Yeah, I read the sales pitch on the CTD site. Thanks for the pic.

Maybe a better reply to your question - 'Lake City" doesn't appear anywhere on the head stamp, 20 round boxes, or the 500 round box. Only on the CTD website and the invoice.

Other than the brass showing the typical discoloration from annealing (I think), there's no indication of anything other than regular Winchester.

So the government owns the land and buildings.
Who owns the equipment?
Winchester, Hornady and Federal share facilities? Equipment? Or, does one make 308, another 556......?


Just trying to understand here.

The way I understand it is Federal has the management contract. They supply management, HR, QC professionals etc. The Feds own all the real estate & hardware.

I doubt that it is very difficult to change out the bunting die for the headstamp. That's the last operation performed on brass.