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I don't know why this thread was dug up but I won't complain. I saw Seafire's load using RL-7 and will have to try it as I have a pound or two to use up. I am currently using IMR 4320 and 52 gr moly coated Berger match bullets and Hornady 52 gr HPs in a Savage Axis with good results.
The Remington 700 I recently picked up doesn't like those but maybe the RL-7 will calm it down. Might have to try the 3031 load as I have some of that and the Sierras someplace.
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3031 is an accuracy powder secret often overlooked in the world of where everyone wants the latest and greatest that wasn't available or in existence last year.
its also a good powder for downloading a cartridge...as its still real accurate.
and if you want to rocket a 40 grain Ballistic Tip or Varmaggeddon or V Max out of a 22.250.. work up to 33.5 grains of R L 7... MV will be 4150 to 4200 fps in my Ruger 77 and my Model 70.
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I just bought a Remington Model 7 Predator 22-250, and am messing around with it. I've tried several loads, and want to use the 52 grain Speer HP, as I have a bunch of them. I load them using W760, and have gotten some decent groups. Like my Ruger 22-250, it also loves the 40 VMax with Varget. I am out of the VMax's, so I tried some 40 grain Nosler BT's, and they don't seem to shoot as well as the VMax does. The reason for going with a 22-250 over a 223 is velocity, and I am not going to load any "mild" 22-250 loads. I want to push that bullet as fast as possible. I am never going to shoot enough to shoot a barrel out, so no worry there.
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IMR 3031 has been an accuracy powder in the 22-250 for years, as noted above. However, my handload for my first 22-250 was a maximum load of IMR 4895 under a Sierra 63 grain semi-spitzer.
Back in the 1980s, my first 22-250, a Remington 700 BDL heavy barrel, had a long throat, and that load shot great. Velocity was 3,500 fps. It was nearly as rough on woodchucks as my 25-06, and that's saying something.
When I got my third (and current) 22-250, a Cooper Varmint Extreme, I switched to the then-new powder Varget, as it is relatively temperature insensitive. My favorite loads in that rifle use 50 grain plastic-tipped bullets with Varget, RL-15, or N 540. I have used the H 380 load with 55 grain bullets, but I prefer 50 grain bullets in a rifle with 1 in 14" twist.
In my experience, the most explosive varmint bullets are Sierra Blitz King, Hornady VMAX, and Nosler Ballistic Tip. I haven't shot any varmints with the new flat-based tipped bullets from Nosler, so I can't rate them. All of the above shoot great in my rifle.
In my Cooper I worked up to 3,900 fps using Varget and moly-coated 50 grain bullets. I forget the load, but it was hot. I have backed down since. With today's new powders I think something like IMR 4166 would be a good choice. It burns cleanly and has that de-coppering agent built in. That's what I would recommend. Good luck with your rifle.
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Good to see a fast twist 75 grain load Hondo.
More fast twist loads might be in order with the current interest in fast twist rifles.....
BTW, 33 grains of R15 with 75 grain projectiles has shot well in two 8 twist .22-250's I have owned.
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I recently had a new barrel put on my Cooper, an 8 twist intended for the 75 Hornady ELD-M. After load development, fine tuning scope adjustments, and fine tuning data inputs in the G7BR2 rangefinder I got it out last week for some prairie dog shooting. Long shot of the day was 1127 yards. I had hoped to make it a thousand yard PD gun... mission accomplished.
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I recently had a new barrel put on my Cooper, an 8 twist intended for the 75 Hornady ELD-M. After load development, fine tuning scope adjustments, and fine tuning data inputs in the G7BR2 rangefinder I got it out last week for some prairie dog shooting. Long shot of the day was 1127 yards. I had hoped to make it a thousand yard PD gun... mission accomplished. That is sweet, Brad!!
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I got some MidwayUSA "80 gr." surplus, unnamed bullets that took a while to ID. They actually weigh 75.5 gr., so maybe that's why they were at Midway. Anyway, I loaded some in my 8 twist Shilen .22-250 and they shot surprisingly well. I don't know how they'll do on critters, but I hope to find out. Here's the link to Horn TAP/SBR ammo. You can see the similarity with that bullet and this one. SBR stands for short barreled rifle. So, I'm pushing them a lot faster than Hornady, in their 5.56 SBR ammo. http://www.hornadyle.com/products/rifle-ammunition/556-nato/75-gr-tap-sbr I didn't get the chrono set up, but they should be running around 3,200 fps. DF
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Mohawk 600/Shilen 8 twist .22-250. Barrel slightly longer than original. Balances better. Timney, aluminum bottom metal, glassed and free floated. DF
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Does anyone know what twist Howa uses on their 22/250s ? Its an older one and has a 22" barrel.
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Don’t know. Older gun, I’d guess 14.
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Does anyone know what twist Howa uses on their 22/250s ? Its an older one and has a 22" barrel. 1 in 14... the one I had and gave to a friend, for his son in Montana...
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Used to have. Rem 700 VS 22-250 with factory 1-14” twist barrel. My most used load was 35.5 grains IMR 4064 and a 50 grain Sierra Blitzking. It would shoot 5/8-3/4”. (.6-.75”) moa.
No chrono, estimate ~3500-3550 FPS. Took my longest first shot kill of a chuck at 410 yards with it.
Your 1-12” twist may prefer 55 grain bullets.
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30 grains of H 322, with 53 V Max... 3500 fps out of Model 70 with a 28 inch barrel...
1 in 12 twist.. Pac Nor barrel.. heavy magnum contour.
one of my favorite individual rifles.
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35.5 benchmark 50 balistic tip That's a winner in my book too. Benchmark, 50gr NBTs and 22-250 where made for each other IMHO.
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My first .22-250, a Winchester M70 push feed Sporter Varmint loved 41.4 gr. of 760 pushing a winchester 55 gr soft point at around 3850 fps. This load is straight from the Hornady manual, 3rd edition.
My current rifle, a Savage 12FV adores IMR4064, enough to drive a 40 gr. Ballistic Tip to 4,000 fps. I reload on a progressive press and tried literally every single ball powder suitable for this cartridge and none was as good IMR4064, so I have a manual powder measure set up on the side and use that to meter charges.
My round count is approaching 5,000 and accuracy is falling off a bit. This barrel won't stabilize most 55 gr. projectiles, so I am thinking about rebarreling with a faster twist.
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this in a model 12,***** well it was a savage hog hunter in .308 until I bought the model 12 barrel and re-barreled it myself.***
26" barrel
Hornady 55 grain soft point with cannular and 36 grains of CFE223 powder.
Winchester or Remington brass made absolutely no difference in accuracy or velocity. 3,600 to 3,620 fps on my chrono.
less than 1/2" at 200 yards when I do my part
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I intend to use this .22-250 rifle / load combo for white tail this year. Should work just fine.
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I use 39 gr. of h380 with 55 gr. nosler varmageddon tipped bullets and work great on coyotes. I have the same barrel as you
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60 gr. sierra 1375 bullets work great for deer and antolope with 36.5 gr. of h380
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I actually have a 22-250 AI, but in my fire-form loads it shoots real well with IMR 4895 and Sierra boat-tail spitzer #1365
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