Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Deer Hunting Shorten Crossbow Season (for some)in Wisconsin?

You are very welcome. You should visit WI at some point. You would like it here. Oh and if you can find my citation docket info, can you post it here? Its no longer on the states site due to it being in 2012. I can find my speeding tickets but not the deer feeding citation.

Id like to view it again so post that link and my DNR customer number please. (This is a real request)

And again, don't be such a stranger in these parts. If you cant make it to WI, you can catch up with whats happening by visiting us here.

I thought pine tine was a bit more entertaining under the fist name he created here when he tried to "expose" me as a drug user when he ended up with egg on his face and tucked tail. This new identity he created seems so angry and frustrated and helpless. Im starting to feel bad for him and not just because of all the effort he puts into me.

That doesn't excuse anything. Just because a law is old doesn't matter. Weather or not a law is valid matters. "THOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER" is one of the oldest laws. You going to tell me it's no longer valid? Horse crap.

There are only 3 choices on how to treat a law you don't agree with:
A) obey it.
B) defy it, and expect to pay the price for that defiance.
C)work to have the law changed or voided out.

There is no "This law must be expired by now" category.

Correct

Success % shown doesn't mean squat.

Over 6 times as many gun licenses.

Well than Money talks Gun license fees and Bullsheet walks less money State greats- Achery and Crossbowers come second in States mind

Math is not your strong suit, is it?

What the NRB is focusing on is the number of licenses sold and the number of bucks killed (success rate) I will make it simple for you.

Last year, it took 5.6 gun deer hunters to kill a buck (pretty stable over the years of the data)

It took 7.1 bowhunters to kill a buck.

But it takes only 3.4 crossbowers to kill a buck because of the weapons efficiency and the duration of the trial seasons. and a look at the graph shows a rapidly increasing success rate for the crossbower and trends also matter in game management since one needs to be proactive rather than trying to play catch up.

The success rate is key and the focus of the investigation of the data as it relates to the final season setting for the new crossbow season. Since the NRB really cant throttle back the advances in crossbows (and they are getting more lethal every year), the tool in their tool box is adjusting the duration as they go about setting the season length. This is all pretty simple and logical so its baffles as to why the crossbower is getting all animated as we work to set the crossbow season structure.

The gun deer season is 9 days for a reason. The archery deer season is over 100 days for a reason. Both season duration's are based on the success rate (impacts on the resource) The setting of the duration of the crossbow season will put it somewhere between the duration of gun deer hunting and the bowhunting and will still allow for plenty of opportunity for crossbowing.

Well this make perfect sense yes Crossbow is not achery Hunting I see that now

Rifle is not Archery -Gun season
Longbow ,recurves ,compounds —-Achery Hunting

Now I see best word for Crossbow -Hybrid Weapon of lazy hunter ,=I must be a little lazy

Agree now we need contact all 48 States do same study as WI

It’s getting to easy kill a deer with X-Gunbow

Correct. its crossbow hunting and not to be confused with bowhunting. Thats why WI has an archery deer season and a crossbowing season.



Correct again. That is exactly how its written in state statute.



Sure, if thats what you want to call it. Go for it. you have the freedom to do so.



No, each state is free to manage as they see fit.



Yes, the data supports that.

So now a crossbow will actually out perform a gun.......interesting. You're a hoot Short Thing.

If anyone has really followed this whole cluster, those numbers and charts are made up by this Kaz guy and aren't accurate. Short Bus and his one friend he has are manufacturing info for their cause. Fun to watch him type all these books though. Must not have much else of a purpose in life. Lol

Yes Crossbow are more deadly than rifles

Rifle chases deer away at shoot

I read some crossbow guys shot 2 or 3 deer under stand in one day

Based on the effectiveness of the crossbows and the length of the data gathering, trial period, the data gathered by the DNR showed that the the crossbower had the highest success rate of any weapon. Thats the reason for this final season setting.

This is where your data is flawed based on what I've read of the meeting. The data was something Kaz manufactured. Poacher and liar.....why would we expect any different of you.

Amazing how much time you spend on a 95% gun hunting forum to post pages of bs. Lol Seems you'd take on the crossbow forums to sway the actual users instead of the 1 or 2 Wisconsin residents that will actually vote.

I understand how a basic slice of numbers really doesn't tell you what is going on.

How many gun hunters are weekend warriors?
When is their season?
When is the rut?
How does the weather differ?
How selective are the hunters in their take?
Is their regional bias?
Etc. Etc.

You wanna talk math? Experiments with PHD and Six Sigma types......for a living.
I know that stuff aint always what it looks like..........unless you're some dumphook with an MBA.

No longer work for one major company.
Diff one, also big, but in different capacity.

But being new, I asked some questions right off.
Was told not too nicely I didn't know chit and to shut up and learn.

Problem pops up (happened off and on before I started), lead eng does a 4 hr DOE on one machine and claims success.
Management lemmings all chirp with glee and lick his ass.
Problem comes back months later.
And on other products (new).

Turns out they find that one of the first questions I asked..............was indeed the cause.
Dumbasses................I'll tell you like I told them. Ron............

Go F yourself.

It will be the same for all weapons types. The data is based on weapons type licenses sold and the kill while using that weapon.



Each has a season unto their own. In the case of the bowhunter and the crossbower, during the trial period, the crossbow season ran the same time as real bowhunting was taking place yet the crossbower had a far greater success rate. This season concurrency was specifically so as to gauge the efectivness of the weapon. That data was collected by the DNR and is the basis f the season setting for crossbowers.



See the reply above since bowhunting and crossbowing took place for the same time period during the trial seasons yet the crossbower's success rate was far higher than real bowhunters.



See the reply above since bowhunting and crossbowing took place for the same time period during the trial seasons yet the crossbower's success rate was far higher than real bowhunters.



See the reply above since bowhunting and crossbowing took place for the same time period during the trial seasons yet the crossbower's success rate was far higher than real bowhunters.



See the reply above since bowhunting and crossbowing took place for the same time period during the trial seasons yet the crossbower's success rate was far higher than real bowhunters.

As to the gun deer hunter. They have the most advanced weapon of them all with several hundred yards of killing range and yet the crossbower had a higher success rate then even gun hunters. This was due to the duration of the crossbow trial season. Now the data collected by the DNR is being used to set the final duration of the crossbow season.

LOL at the GFY comments. This means you have seen the info and cant refute it so a tantrum is the best you can muster.

Lmao.....keep him writing hook eye. I've never saw someone write so much thinking they are gonna change the world. Especially after being the toolbox he has. He is t ok bullheaded and egotistical to not reply! I love it.....keep pulling his strings.

Like a cab driver............drives a friggin' car for a living.
Professional some might say.
Doesn't mean he can rebuild an engine or knows how all the systems work together (even if he could rebuild an engine).
Have seen PHD's that were worthless.
Sheepskin often a fooler.

Worked with some very talented people, for years.
Makes it rather easy to spot a friggin moron, even if a couple of states away.

Yeah................. That tantrum thing again. Keep milking that cow if its all you have.

Meanwhile. WI season setting is taking place despite out of state tantrums.