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If I do it, an old retired cranky Mil/Swat/Sniper buddy of mine will do the spring swaps, you bring him a Colt, old Winchester, 98 Mauser or FN anything and you get moved to the front of the line ;]

Agreed, my +P load with 230 gr Gold Dots at 967 fps fall right at the top of Hogdons Super data, with an old all steel 5" Springfield trophy match I sent 230 gr fmj-fp's to an even 1200 fps in Starline 45 Super brass with the correct spring kit, never a hint of trouble, buddy liked it so much he left me with some green and took it home, brass, loaded fmj's and all.

I need to find that thread BSA, my new Commander sure likes the +P Gold Dot load, less than a snuff can sized group for 16 rounds is plenty good enough for me at a braced 20 yards, it wouldn't function at all with standard pressure factory 230 ball, it must have a hell for stout spring.

Some of those loads are in the 10mm range. I like Longshot in that round, as well.

180 and 200 gr at 1,200 fps out of my Glock m-40, which is a long slide m-20 in 10mm, this one with a RM-06 reflex sight.

DF

45 Super will do 1100 plus or minus with 230’s and 1300 pus or minus with 185’s

Did you hit the wrong number with the 285’s? 1,300 would be pretty fast with such a big heavy bullet.

DF

Definately hit the wrong numbers. Corrected above.

Longshot as well as power pistol is good stuff DF, I love 'em, and be damned to the it's too loud, too much flash pansies.

When a man finds a powder that provides accuracy and runs his gun 100% right, he'd be wise to stick with it.

I guess they all “quiet” once the hearing is gone...😢

DF

LOL, it's all good, no powders are quiet, and none don't flash like hell in the dark, guess if you need to place a precision hit, close your dominate eye, if not, lite it and keep it lit so you can see.

Plenty of powders don't flash much in the dark, like some of the Accurate flash-inhibited powders for example. Power pistol is great in the 45 +P loads, but there's no denying that it flashes a lot.

Be-86 was introduced to be equivalent in performance to Power Pistol with less flash, and it seems to do just that.

In my testing it is, for all purposes, identical to PP by volume. Charges thrown with the same measure setting produce similar velocity...that's not a recommendation, just an observation.

Not taking advantage of the benefits of a full-profile FPS is missing an opportunity...not to mention being irreverent to the original JMB design...

Yondering and Boogaloo, I know what you guys are saying, and I suppose any reduction in flash may help, But, many, many moons ago a small group of of us were in a VERY dimly lit loud room, we were hit with differing levels [lumens] of light, ANY direct hit in the eyes and you were screwed, blued and tattooed.

The guys would hit us, blind us, then run around and touch us on the shoulders or top of the head, we couldn't hear or see chit, was kinda funny, suppose someone hit us with a bright weapons light, shut it off, moved to another position, then he turned it back on, we'd be confused, blind 'dead' ducks ;]

Sure, but maybe you don't realize that some flash reduced powders in the right loads can give off nothing more than a tiny orange glow at night? Big difference between that and something like Power Pistol or Blue Dot, or having a flashlight shined in your face. Having been temporarily blinded by my own muzzle flash once (handgun hunting right at dusk in the woods), I now choose flash reduced powders for anything I might shoot in the dark. It does make a difference; claiming it doesn't makes it sound like you haven't really tried any low flash loads.

Somewhere I have a series of pictures showing the flash from various powders, but am not sure where it is. If I find it I'll post it. IIRC it was about 10mm loads, so not directly applicable to 45 ACP, but it showed a couple powders like AA7 and AA9 with barely any visible flash. IIRC though AA5 on the other hand had a pretty average flash, and of course Power Pistol was one of the brightest and biggest.

If you the kinda guy who makes a "big flash", maybe PP is the way to go...

I have AA-7 and AA-9 for my 10mm. Am using Longshot right now, need to check those two out.

DF

I learn something new every time I log in here, never knew I shot flash suppressed powders, probably burned near a wheel barrow load of AA#7 back in the day, but will wholeheartedly admit, AT THE TIME, I never gave two fresh dropped goat pellets on how pistolas were, or were not flashing, much more important things going on.

Hell yes DF, get you a 30 round Glock stick, and get it lit

I shoot Longshot in my 10 too, cant get the AA powders anymore, AA7, AA9, AA 2015BR, and AA8700 were/are still some of the most accurate powders I've ever used.

Check with Powder Valley anytime you can't find a powder.

Just got a big jug of RL-26 while they had free haz mat...

DF

Thanks for the tip DF, never online shopped for powder or primers due to the HM fee, never knew some companies killed at times.