24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,704
Likes: 2
z1r Offline
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,704
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by Bugger
I've had 4 600/660 Remington 308's. Seven's are better than those 600/660's IMHO - mostly because they look nicer (I don't like 600/660 floor plates and 600's ribs.

I think a seven in a 308 would be a great deer rifle.

I prefer a 700, it sooooo depends on where you hunt -- terrain, cover etc.

Lately I'm hunting mostly on the plains and Missouri River breaks for deer. Last year I was in the Bear Lodge Mountains. As it turned out, I could have shot last year's doe with a 357 Mag 4" S&W - (20 feet standing broadside). -- I mainly shoot deer for meat and the getting together of friends hunting together.

For twenty plus years I hunted in the Black Hills of South Dakota. I often shot deer (bucks only then) while they were on the run.

On the plains I prefer "rifles", in the hills/mountains in heavier cover I preferred "carbines". Rifles hold more steady for me. Carbines are faster to get on target.


I agree on your carbine vs rifle preference for the most part. And to me that means a .308 or similar in a carbine which, due to its size, I consider the Model 7, and a 6.5x55 through .30-06 in a rifle. The longer, heavier rifle being easier t steady for those longer shots.

I'm kinda flush with .38's but like my 223 so much that I really am having thoughts about buying that model Seven in .308. I like the synthetic stocks on the older models better than the ones on the newer production. However, I like that newer Sevens have four scope base holes vs three.

GB1

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,830
V
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
V
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,830
I have a older Model 7 with a 18.5 barrel I believe. Too blasty to me when I last shot it several years ago with factory fodder. I am going to reload this and see what it feels like with minimum loads but got to find bullets for it since I only have the Hornady 100's and Nosler 95's.

Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 369
J
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
J
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 369
Mine will shoot MOA consistently and with one particular handload it will shoot subMOA. It fits my needs well, handy to carry and point. It’s not my first choice for long shots but will still do the job.

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,306
Likes: 2
Campfire Oracle
Online Content
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,306
Likes: 2
[Linked Image]


"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 21,924
Likes: 8
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 21,924
Likes: 8
Originally Posted by Bugger
I've had 4 600/660 Remington 308's. Seven's are better than those 600/660's IMHO - mostly because they look nicer (I don't like 600/660 floor plates and 600's ribs.

I think a seven in a 308 would be a great deer rifle.

I prefer a 700, it sooooo depends on where you hunt -- terrain, cover etc.

Lately I'm hunting mostly on the plains and Missouri River breaks for deer. Last year I was in the Bear Lodge Mountains. As it turned out, I could have shot last year's doe with a 357 Mag 4" S&W - (20 feet standing broadside). -- I mainly shoot deer for meat and the getting together of friends hunting together.

For twenty plus years I hunted in the Black Hills of South Dakota. I often shot deer (bucks only then) while they were on the run.

On the plains I prefer "rifles", in the hills/mountains in heavier cover I preferred "carbines". Rifles hold more steady for me. Carbines are faster to get on target.




I have a M7 243 and a 660 308. The 660 is in a Brown stock, and I prefer the feel and balance of it. And the bolt locking safety.
The M7 is more refined, bolt release, floor platec, little smoother action. Too muzzle light, that dang safety.

Have been thinking about a heavier 20" barrel and getting a M70 safety on the M7.
Then it might be the one rifle I have no complaints about.

Sorry, I broke tradition and read the thread, adding to it.
Anyhow, despite the points above, it would make a great deer gun.
Personally, a Tikka addresses my biases and would work at least as well.

Last edited by Dillonbuck; 05/05/18. Reason: Address op queastion

Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
IC B2

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 3,751
J
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
J
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 3,751
Very popular for folks who like carbines. I've had many customs made up on the early Mod 7 synthetic stock/action just because they are so slim and trim (my preference). I actually prefer a longer, so used a sporter weight barrel.(Mod 700 take off barrels work swell!) I have big hands and the wrist could stand to be more open for me on any Remington, ala Model 70 FWT. However, the little short skinny barrels kill a lot of game! being tall, I learned my limitations on short/light bolt guns in .308...one of the first Ruger Ultralights. It kicked pretty hard, OK, and off the bench shot very well. I only had a Leupold 1x4 on it. I figured I could step out of the woods ( East Tx) and onto a pipeline ROW, logging road, etc and be set to 300yds. Well, from hunting positions I couldn't hold it still to even hit a 2 liter pop bottle at 200yds! I traded it off. I figured I had gained nothing over my Mod 94 in that respect. I find that tall men, generally speaking, prefer longer rifles. I know I do. One can always drill out the wood buttstock to get rid of some of the butt-heavy balance, maybe slide a couple of those rubber doughnut accuracy thingys onto the barrel for a bit more weight. Light weight scopes help. Have a ball though!

Last edited by Jim_Knight; 05/05/18.
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,612
L
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
L
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,612
I was on the hunt for perfect, dont mess with it, just hunt rifle. I had settled on .308 not because of any deep seated love for it, but simply because its easy. Ammo and components are plentiful, bullet selection endless, and I have enough parts on hand to make ammo for life. I had really wanted a Howa Alpine, but just couldnt make myself spend that money on an impulse. When the Kimber Hunter came out, I was sold...until i picked one up. I happened across a mid 90s Seven Stainless Synthetic....and for whatever reason, everything seemed to jive. Ended up buying a different one from a seller here....had delivered two days before deer rifle opener last year, threw a spare Burris I had on it, and sighted it in with some stuff I had in the cabinet. It went from seller to killing a very nice 8pt opening morning....and I cant think of a reason why this isnt the perfect rifle for me.

I may eventually put a stock on it, but the synthetic that is came in actually isnt a bad stock.

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 303
A
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
A
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 303
My Model 7 came from the factory with the 18.5in barrel in 243. I managed to find a factory 7-08 barrel off a Titanium which is the ultralight profile but has the 22in length. When fitted to a nice light Wildcat Composites stock and scoped with a 2-7x36 Kahles CL it is a great little deer rifle that comes in a about 6.5lbs.

I would buy one in 7mm or 300 SAUM and do the same thing again.

Attached Images
Complete SM.jpg (91.44 KB, 295 downloads)
Last edited by Adamjp; 05/07/18.
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 971
F
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
F
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 971
I have one, back from when they first came out. I had to try it, such a radical departure from the clunkers of the time. Mine is 7mm-08 with the shorter 18.8" barrel. It handles and carries like dream. I like the barrel length and dont understand why they are longer now. Could it be the recoil of the 308? Noise? They are all loud. That is ok, I got mine. A real good looker too.

One thing to watch for is the old model only has 3 screws drilled and tapped. That takes a one piece scope base. Not a lot of options when I set mine up. I see now they have 4 screws. I also see the current Remington have a heavy laminated stock. Heavy stock and long barrels, idiots miss the whole point of the model 7.

The one thing you can always count on: If any maker gets a great idea for a new firearm it will have a life cycle. Initial bugs or refinement, glory days and finally get dumb down for the masses or cheeped out by new management. I can see today, the Model 7 is a trim little action to build a custom rifle around. If Remington ever gets its act together this will be a model to watch for.

You all know, the Model 7 is a reduced diameter (small ring) action that is sized for 308 family or smaller rounds. The belted magnums will not fit. That results in the "potential" for a light rifle.

This would be a natural for the 6.5 creedmore. That is very popular but the barrel is never long enough for the CM shooters or newbies. I would like to see a 6.5 Grindel in the model 7. The later would be a sweet little gun. And maybe the masses would be ok with an 18.5" barrel for the 6.5G. Again, not a big deal to me. I expect CZ will eventually offer a carbine in 6.5G.

Last edited by fourbore; 05/07/18.
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 44,892
Likes: 12
M
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Content
Campfire 'Bwana
M
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 44,892
Likes: 12
[quote=fourbore]

You all know, the Model 7 is a reduced diameter (small ring) action that is sized for 308 family or smaller rounds. The belted magnums will not fit. That results in the "potential" for a light rifle.

Not so. The 7 came in 350 Rem. mag, which, while short, is belted mag diameter.

IC B3

Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 470
N
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
N
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 470
It would be a great setup. I have 3 Model Seven SS rifles. Two are 7 SAUM with 22" barrels and one is a new 7-08 with a 20" barrel.

They are handy little rifles that are well balanced and have been very accurate for me.

Last edited by N2TRKYS; 05/07/18.
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 45
Campfire Greenhorn
Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 45
I only have 2, both SS. I took my biggest whitetail to date with the 260. The other is in 300 SAUM that I haven't played with yet. I'm a fan.


"In the end God will not look you over for medals, degrees, or diplomas...but for scars."
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 19,262
Likes: 2
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 19,262
Likes: 2
[Linked Image]

This is my truck/UTV/knockabout rifle. Model 7 in 223, with Burris 3X9. It shoots any weight bullet that I've tried in it good enough to be a coyote killer out to 300 yards

Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 971
F
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
F
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 971
Originally Posted by mathman
[quote=fourbore]

You all know, the Model 7 is a reduced diameter (small ring) action that is sized for 308 family or smaller rounds. The belted magnums will not fit. That results in the "potential" for a light rifle.

Not so. The 7 came in 350 Rem. mag, which, while short, is belted mag diameter.


I had to read up. I have a model 7. It is my only Remington. So; you are right. it seems they reduce the length and weight, but; kept enough for the magnums. Unlike Kimber.

Good to know, I can avoid future embarrassment and miss information. I have been spouting this baloney in black letters for years and no one called me on it.

Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,083
D
DrDeath Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,083
Any opinions on the Model 7 SS HS ...

Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 32,239
Likes: 1
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 32,239
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by DrDeath
Any opinions on the Model 7 SS HS ...


I think that they are over-priced, but if you like the stocks then they might be OK. I don't care for H-S stocks, so I'd be buying it for the barreled action and that would not be a good value for me.

I think that there are better values out there if you have time to look around. I'd probably opt for a Kimber Hunter if I was looking for a new short, light, rifle, as they are regularly in the new gun racks at our local Scheel's store for between $600 and $700.

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 26,642
Likes: 20
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 26,642
Likes: 20
Originally Posted by DrDeath
Any opinions on the Model 7 SS HS ...


I came very close to buying one a month or so ago. I was going to buy one chambered in 243. Then I found a Nosler Liberty in 6 Creed for very slightly more money and ordered it. It is back at Nosler now being repaired.

Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,955
Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,955
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Adamjp
My Model 7 came from the factory with the 18.5in barrel in 243. I managed to find a factory 7-08 barrel off a Titanium which is the ultralight profile but has the 22in length. When fitted to a nice light Wildcat Composites stock and scoped with a 2-7x36 Kahles CL it is a great little deer rifle that comes in a about 6.5lbs.

I would buy one in 7mm or 300 SAUM and do the same thing again.


Nice rifle .... I like those WC stocks.

Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 5,053
Likes: 9
H
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
H
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 5,053
Likes: 9
I bought one in 223 when they came to market. Mine was accurate. I liked it.
My brother got one in 308 a year later. He liked it. I didn't. I shoot better than he does so I always did our sighting in. The recoil from his rifle was harsh.
I regularly hunt now with a 300 Wby and a 35 Whelen. They don't seem as harsh as that 7 308 was.

Joined: May 2017
Posts: 142
B
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
B
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 142
Originally Posted by Hogwild7
I bought one in 223 when they came to market. Mine was accurate. I liked it.
My brother got one in 308 a year later. He liked it. I didn't. I shoot better than he does so I always did our sighting in. The recoil from his rifle was harsh.
I regularly hunt now with a 300 Wby and a 35 Whelen. They don't seem as harsh as that 7 308 was.


That's funny. It's odd how rifles can be like that. I have BAR in 30-06 that is just flat painful to shoot to me, but most folks don't have an issue with it.

My M7 308 doesn't seem harsh at all.

Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

574 members (1badf350, 12344mag, 219DW, 204guy, 160user, 1beaver_shooter, 59 invisible), 2,431 guests, and 1,314 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,193,865
Posts18,517,931
Members74,020
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.096s Queries: 56 (0.015s) Memory: 0.9124 MB (Peak: 1.0492 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-17 14:40:45 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS