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Again, I'm not saying the drugs don't work. I'm saying we don't know what the long term effects on them are. If your kid is on drugs his entire life and has another kid, does that affect his child? If mom takes ritalin her entire life, does that affect her child?

If you start a kid in Kindergarten instead of ninth grade, what's the result?

When school shootings occur all we hear is " we have to do something"which usually equates to banning firearms.How about restricting social media? No one can register for a social media ( facebook,twitter,etc.) until they graduate from high school!That qualifies as "doing something"!

That would be as arbitrary and without cause as banning AR's.

Its not the location, its the accessibility to things to do, and the versatility of things to do, short white kids don't excel at hoops, but we can fish, some can't run fast, you don't need to, if you spend your day shooting be be guns, we only got bullied at school, when they shipped us to town, we fought back and they found easier prey. we didn't have many friends but we always had a dog, and most of us had a father that beat our asses if we were to stupid for ourselves, or others good.

Sounds like you're on track to solving the problem.

Agreed My oldest played soccer, the exercise made no difference in his ability to concentrate and do well in school.




Could be but doubt in the case of ADHD, there is pretty good testing available now to diagnose this disorder. When my oldest was in the first grade we were given a lengthy standardized set of questions to answer and his teacher (who was adamant that he did not have it) was given the same set of questions to answer. The tests were analyzed by the schools social worker. The results were almost identical for both the teacher and us and were positive for ADHD. The teacher was completely surprised by this. We were then referred to our pediatrician who examined him and concurred that he had ADHD. It is not easy to get the meds,

The MSM practically glorifying these acts of evil does not help the situation at all. Don't even report on it. They are attention seeking little psychos. Take away their "glory" and they won't have a purpose.

I agree, the internet is an evil place for kids. Social media has caused more teen suicides than we would ever care to know. Kids without parents heavily involved are free to go seek out this sick shiitt on the internet every day and it desensitizes them and poisons their brains.

Until we figure this crap out, I think we need limited access to schools and well trained, armed guards at the entrance(s). (Lots of vets looking for work. Pay them WELL)

Also, authorities AND parents need to take shiitt seriously when kids report a kid with risky behavior. 9 times out of 10, the warning signs have been there.

Describe risky behavior ? hell we can't even figure out who pisses where. This last twit wore a trench coat to school everyday, the temperature was 85 degrees the day of the shooting, WTF is out of the ordinary about that? Mom, Dad no teachers noticed or thought that was weird?

You figure the trailer park trash with 8 kids are gonna pay for it? Section 8 housing with a bushel of kids? Millions of illegals? Or is it the 'rich' white folks that worked their entire lives and now own a home that are going to have to pay for bastard's of welfare rats?

A little quick math

100,000 schools x 3 = 300,000 cops

500,000 buses x 1 = 500, 000 cops (but lets say 400,00 since many places one bus runs multiple routes)

So now we have 700,000 extra cops. How much an hour are they getting? Insurance? What are they doing during school breaks? Unemployment?


Should state colleges all be locked down? Shouldn't they have cops in every building? Public transportation, every bus should have a cop.


So lets just say we need what, 3 million more cops.

I know, we can start another Government agency, like TSA, for schools/buses etc.

I have not read the whole thread so I apologize if this has been posted but this poem says a lot IMO:

Mary had a little lamb,

His fleece was as white as snow.

And everywhere that Mary went,

The Lamb was sure to go.

He followed her to school each day,

‘Twasn’t even in the rule.

He made the children laugh and play,

To have a Lamb at school.

And then the rules all changed one day,

Illegal it became;

To bring the Lamb of God to school,

Or even speak His Name.

Every day got worse and worse,

And days turned into years.

Instead of hearing children laugh,

We heard gunshots and tears.

What must we do to stop the crime,

That’s in our schools today?

Let’s let the Lamb come back to school,

And teach our kids to pray!

Acknowledge your concern, I also wonder about the long term risks/benefits ratio. I was just trying to use my kids as an example of at least about 26-7 years down the line. The evidence seems to indicate that there is definitely a genetic component involved as it is more likely if one or both parents have it.


As far as "social" media is concerned I feel it has had a dehumanizing effect on our culture. But the genie is out of the bottle and we have to adapt, as parents we have to insist on limits and provide children with more face to face social interaction. I think that the two parent working/career path has also had a negative influence, too many latch key kids with no super vision. Parents that have no clue what is happening to their kid in school and/or not knowing what their kid is doing locked in his room all day.

The po-po solution is laughable at best.

I don't know what the real answer is Scott but something needs to be done until we can figure this out.Hey I know, maybe we should stop sending billions of tax dollars to 3rd world shiittholes and paying welfare to the people that come from said shiittholes and use that money to protect our kids.

Exactly. It is a social problem that require a social solution not money thrown at it. The seeds of this problem were sown a long time ago and there are no easy or quick solutions.

Maybe it is but if my kids were murdered in a school shooting I sure as hell would have wished someone with a firearm was there to prevent it. What do you think about armed teachers?

Let the parents do something and pay for it. Ownership via their time and their money. Seems everyone wants something done, but they want someone else doing the lifting, physically and monetarily

I guess I see your point. It's kind of like your property taxes going up because they put an 11 million dollar addition on the school and you don't even have kids attending the school anymore.

What has changed in schools? Since the communists have taken over our education system it is the schools that are an evil place for kids.

My take on this topic, in a letter to an editor I wrote a few weeks ago.


WHY THIS GENERATION NEEDS GUN CONTROL
Emma Gonzalez in Teen Vogue magazine March 23, 2018

What a perceptive title! That captures the issue in six words.

This generation needs gun control because my 60's generation has not passed on the values that made gun control unnecessary in previous generations. We have not given the next generation self discipline, respect for others, respect for human life, personal worth, dignity, absolutes of right and wrong to guide conscience. This generation needs external gun control because they don't have the internal control to manage life's inescapable realities of risk, danger, and responsibility.

External control of citizens is the default position of governments throughout the ages from the Pharaohs to Putin, and it works to some extent though it has a terrible track record of abuse and suppression of citizens. The US constitution is the one grand document that pioneered the self government of citizens, by internal control rather than government suppression. The Bill of Rights gives citizens breathtakingly broad freedoms, dangerous freedoms in the view of any king or despot in history. And the despots are correct: such freedom is dangerous, to ourselves and others when abused.

When used responsibly, these freedoms have produced the most prosperous, most powerful and most envied body of citizens on earth. Far from perfect, ever improving within the parameters of the tremendous founding freedoms, the progress of the US has astounded the world.

By not passing on the values on which this nation functions, we have jeopardized its existence. Our citizen children are protesting that they cannot handle such freedom and demanding that somebody control them.

To them I say: Forgive me. We have failed you.

Interesting