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Tell the wife to stop being so self-centered and stop buying that stuff. Really shameful on her part, knowing your condition

Better to just go full Ketogenic. KetoCenteraol.com

What med(s) are you on for your Type II?

Do you take them as directed?





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Yeah, but we can roll in each others misery...but seriously, some 'fire input has been quite helpful, go read the colon-exploration threads.

Diagnosed Type II about 18 months ago, been mostly Keto about 20 years, diet doctor told me to eliminate all red meat and only eat a few ounces of chicken and fish, eat lots of fruit, eliminate, butter, fat, oils, and rather than bacon and eggs, eat stir fried vegetables for breakfast.

I told her that ain't happening, go read "Eat the Yolk"

Women in the office tell me "don't eat that, don't drink that"......whatever, every few years some study or report states we should or should not put something in our mouth that contradicts a previous study or report or will contradict a future study or report.

All the above to eliminate crop foods and crop oils...but g'damn, buttered biscuits, white gravy, chickfried steak and Dorito's taste good.

Crop foods and crop oils are the devil for sure!

Congratulations on your self sufficiency, mind over matter.


mike r

Eat real food.
Eat less.
Move more.

Talk to your Doc about Viberzi for the IBS. Thank me later...

Metaformin and glimepiride. The glimepride has been cut out these last few days because I seriously cut my carb intake. Blood sugars have been good these last few days.

wow.
Good work, your Poobleishness.
I won't even recognize you next time.
Can we still go to that steak house?

Keep up the good work.

Slave

Yes, something towards the Paleo lifestyle (it has to be every day) and moderate exercise year 'round.

Metformin is standard of care for initial therapy. Type II is a progressive disease, so you’ll need additional drugs eventually. Your doctor added glimepiride, a sulfonylurea. These drugs act by telling your pancreas to produce more insulin. The problem is, they never stop shouting at your pancreas, regardless of the level of glucose in your blood. If you skip lunch or are late for dinner you could experience dangerously low blood sugar, a condition called hypoglycemia. High blood sugar is bad, but frequent excursions into hypoglycemia is really, really dangerous.

Sulfonylureas are generic, that’s why they get used so much. They’re crap, though. You have much better options with regard to A1C lowering agents with a much lower potential for hypoglycemia. Some drugs, like dpp-4 inhibitors, act like glimepiride, but only when blood sugars get high, like after a meal. Other agents tell your kidneys to eliminate glucose into your urine, instead of recapturing into your bloodstream.

The point is, you have much better options. Ask your doctor why he chose glimepiride as the add-on agent instead of something else. Better yet, ask him why he’s not following the expert recommendations of the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists.


https://www.aace.com/files/aace_algorithm_slides.pptx


Notice that sulfonylureas (SU/GLN) are last on the list (dead last, every time, with a “use with caution” warning) of add-on agents.

So ask why, and pay attention to the answer. It’s your body.






P

This is the bottom line. Once you feel you are worth saving, you will make the conscious decision to save, rather than destroy yourself.

tag

This plus.... CONGRATULATIONS Ingwe!

Being Diabetic has got to be frustrating. There are a long list of other illnesses however that only get worse overtime regardless of how well you eat or how much exercise you get.

I've met people that "Just threw in the towel" on the diet exercise attitude thing and then had terrible outcomes..... I've also known diabetic folks who live long and very full lives. I hope you are able to find a path that works for you.

As soon as the doctor told me there was trouble with my A1C, I started testing. I wasn't on any meds yet. I just had a bum reading. I went a week eating as I always had and testing twice a day. After seeing what was going on, I started removing stuff from my diet:

1) Cola drinks
2) French fries and mashed potatoes
3) Pancakes and syrup
4) Doughnuts and bagels
4) All forms of candy

I also started substituting things like nuts for all the other snacks I was eating, and I stopped eating those except when I was seriously in need.

What I found was that if I concentrated on the biggest offenders, I was able to make my glucose readings get more consistent and consistently lower. The doc put me on a low dose of Metformin, and I'm pretty much under control.

The next step was reducing my overall calorie intake so I could lose weight. 4-piece chicken dinners from Popeye's became 3 piece. I now order only two pieces. A 16 oz steak became an 8 oz steak.

The last things were the hardest to figure out. I'd dropped Cola out of my diet, but I still had a lemonade every evening. I started watering my lemonade and I went from 2 gallons a week to a gallon every 10 days. I would occasionally have pizza. I switched to a whole wheat crust. I kept pecking away at the edges.

I'm now a full 2 years on this regimen. Over time, my stomach shrank to the point where what had been a normal meal a year before was waaay too much. No muss. No fuss.

If you have a Facebook account, look up Dana Carpender, or "hold the toast". Also the website by that name, although it has pretty much been cobwebbed in favor of FB. Read her book and understand how and why simple,cheap carbs are a killer. It's a good read. But in the end, it will boil down to you making good decisions. 15 years on basic low carb here, dropped 70 lbs in 2003 and have kept 60 of them off.

Edit to add: name of the book is "how I gave up my low fat diet and lost 40 lbs." May be out of print but may be available on her FB account; I don't do FB so can't explore things there.

Losing weight and avoiding chronic medical issues has always been as simple as avoiding sugar, starch, and processed foods. That leaves everything that cavemen had available to them to eat, fish, fowl, meat, eggs, non-starchy vegetables. You can add to that butter, cream, whole raw milk, cheese, since these are animal sources of fat and protein, even if cavemen didn't know about them. Best to avoid fruit.

I'm sorry Rocky, but nutritionists gave us the Food Pyramid, and I've never met a GP that had a working understanding of nutrition.

Remember the nutritional advice from the medical world in the past? Things like:

Don't eat more than 2 eggs per week
Don't eat butter, eat margarine
Eat no more than 3 oz of animal protein a day
Most of your calories should come from carbs
Eat minimal fats.
Eat no more than a handful of nuts.

All that rubbish turns out to be the exact OPPOSITE of what a healthy human diet should look like. No, doctors should stick to what they do best, cutting and writing scripts. Nutritionists aren't much better. The stuff they spouted only 15 years ago was simply dangerous.

What works for weight loss works for diabetes. Eliminate carbs, move towards the Paleo / Keto diet, and yes, exercise more. Both the IBS and diabetes will be helped.

Thank you guys for the compliments.

Yes we can still go to the steak house, I just have to skip the beer and dessert!

For those who care, my first German Shepherd died of diabetes, and the downward spiral was AWFUL...Made up my mind then if it ever came to my turn I'd do ANYTHING the Docs said...not as hard as you think.

For those who have met me, all I got to offer is an "after" photo...working a Dutch Shepherd






The only drawback I can say is that eating healthy ( fresh ingredients, no packaged crap) is labor intensive and time consuming....but worth it.