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OK... I'm sure it's been ask before!
First time bedding a stock!
I bedded my Boyd's stock on my Remington model 7 (Stainless .260) using the Miles Gilbert brand and I DID use the release agent very generously on all actions parts and barrel. I let it cure 24 hours and now she's STUCK!!! Action screws are fine no problem there they came right out.
Should I just shoot the rifle and see how it turns out or what should I try to get it to free up?
Thanks for all your Help!!!
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Get more aggressive, or maybe let somebody else do it.
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My guess it's stuck at the recoil lug.You can hold it at the forearm and hit the barrel with a rubber mallet to see it you can pop it loose or some say you can stick it in a freezer and then try to pop it loose.
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Bigger hammer.
Kidding. I had a similar experience once with a Mauser. I used a couple junk action screws and threaded them part way in, then whacked the screw heads alternating between the two until the action broke free. I'm not necessarily recommending that for fear of damaging threads, but desperate times call for desperate measures. If all the finish work were completed on the exterior of the stock and the metal I would be tempted to just leave it the hell alone.
I walked in on a guy once who had neglected application of release agent. He was swearing a blue streak as he raised the hatchet for another swipe at the stock.
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Two ways I've broken them loose. Hold the stock fore end horizontal with one end on a work bench or something that will keep it from flying off into space and the barrel below. Tap the barrel with a rubber mallet, progressively more aggressively until you aren't comfortable. Usually, it will pop out in a couple whacks or slightly more.
The other way- if you have a freezer large enough, place in the freezer for at least a couple hours. Take it out and use the method above. Should come out pretty quickly in just a couple whacks.
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I walked in on a guy once who had neglected application of release agent. He was swearing a blue streak as he raised the hatchet for another swipe at the stock. Man o Manischewitz, that would ruin your day!
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Put it in the deep freeze for a day and when you bang that barrel onto the bench, REALLY bang that barrel onto the bench. Give it hell.
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Every once in a while you find a mechanical lock that you overlooked. First try is the travisdeflave method which usually works for me without the deep freeze. Put a clean old towel on the bench. Once I fitted a rod in the action and hammered through the magazine well, and hard, the only bugger that stuck on me like that. IIRC reverse taper on the (Mauser) recoil lug.
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Two ways I've broken them loose. Hold the stock fore end horizontal with one end on a work bench or something that will keep it from flying off into space and the barrel below. Tap the barrel with a rubber mallet, progressively more aggressively until you aren't comfortable. Usually, it will pop out in a couple whacks or slightly more.
Bob Exactly what I do.. Works very well...
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I have removed about 15 of these from men who have been in the same "spot"
Here's how I do it: If the screws are stuck (yours are not, so skip this part) take a round piece of steel and heat it to red heat and put it against the screw head until it cools below red, and reheat, do it again and again and so on until you have heated the screw up enough to make it let go. It takes about 6 heats to do it to a Mauser screw as a rule. Try about 4 times and then use the screwdriver. if it's still stuck keep doing it.
ALL screws will heat enough to let go if you do this enough times.
Now go dig a trench in the dirt about 6" deep and about 4" longer then your rifle. Get about 5 pounds of dry ice and break it into pieces about the size of small eggs. Put 1/2 of the dry ice in the trench and lay your gun on top and push it into the layer a bit. Cover the barrel and action with the rest of the dry ice.
Now go away for about 5 minutes.
Come back with a hammer handle, or any good heavy hardwood stick, and have on a set of welding gloves or good leather work gloves. (Note: That detail is important if you don't want to stick to the gun) Dig the rifle out of the bed of dry ice and the metal will be about -60 degrees. That contracts the metal a few thousandths. Turn it upside down, holding onto it around the action and hit the bottom of the barrel sharply with the hammer handle about 2" in front of the forend tip.
This has worked for me within 2 hits on every single gun I have had to get out of a glass bed that was stuck. Including one on a M700 where the kid didn't use ANY release agent. (they should read the directions first, but some men don't and a lot of teenagers don't)
In most cases the barreled action falls out fairly easily when it's 60 to 75 below zero.
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+1 on the dry ice trick. My freezer is not big enough for a barreled action so I used a similar method lately. I also made a wedge type tool by cutting an empty 50 BMG cartridge at an angle, about 30degrees from vertical, and sharpening the edge. The open side slips over the barrel and between the barrel and stock making a non-marring wedge.
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To remove any barreled action from the stock, I always do it this way: With the rifIe right-side-up I rest the barrel, at the muzzle end, on a low bench or shelf. The toe of the stock rests on the floor. Then I grasp the forend and simply press downward until the barreled action pops out. If the action does not come loose, I heat up a mandrel with the torch until it's hot enough to sizzle then slip it into the action, wait a minute, then try again. If it still doesn't come out, I declare it "really stuck" and move on to advanced techniques. Not necessary in your case, I'm sure. GD
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Sheister trick done the job!!!!!
Thanks to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sheister trick done the job!!!!!
Thanks to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great. It sounds like you had a good day!
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If you expoxy bed another rifle, put a piece of packing tape on the FRONT, SIDES, and BOTTOM of the recoil lug, then apply release agent ( 2x) especially on the REAR of the recoil lug (apply release agent on the taped surfaces too). The tape on front/side/bottom of lug provides clearance between expoxy and lug/stock for ease of removal. You are most concerned with the REAR of the recoil lug and the stock/action area.
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I've put a couple 2 x 4's parallel to one another on a bench to support the upper flats of the stock and suspend the upside down action and barrel just clear of any support. Next a stout hardwood dowel shaped and inserted into the action/chamber with impact applied through the magazine well via a wood block and hammer.
Lots of ways to skin that cat.
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