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Looks like its going to cost more for the Chinese people to eat. Better start growing soybean.
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Tariffs are like a nuclear war - there are only losers. We've never won a trade war and we never will. Yes, we do need trade on an equitable footing and I do support Trump on this issue, but his methods are injurious to US manufacturers, exporters and workers. Consider Walmart as an importer and the effect of 25% tariffs on the goods they sell. Consider BMW (Spartanburg, SC) and the 86% of production that they export through Charleston (see: https://www.bmwusfactory.com/bmw_articles/bmw-manufacturing-remains-largest-u-s-automotive-exporter/ ). BTW, BMW is the largest US automotive exorter. Consider Boeing and its international sales. In each of these cases, either US imports or US exports will be subject to higher tariffs (either by the US or by foreign nations in retaliation. Lower sales will result in plant and port layoffs.
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Looks like its going to cost more for the Chinese people to eat. Better start growing soybean. China is already switching grain suppliers; US farmers will be the losers. And, these are long-term agreements, so it will be difficult for US farmers to recover these lost sales for many years.
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"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Tariffs are like a nuclear war - there are only losers. We've never won a trade war and we never will. Yes, we do need trade on an equitable footing and I do support Trump on this issue, but his methods are injurious to US manufacturers, exporters and workers. Consider Walmart as an importer and the effect of 25% tariffs on the goods they sell. Consider BMW (Spartanburg, SC) and the 86% of production that they export through Charleston (see: https://www.bmwusfactory.com/bmw_articles/bmw-manufacturing-remains-largest-u-s-automotive-exporter/ ). BTW, BMW is the largest US automotive exorter. Consider Boeing and its international sales. In each of these cases, either US imports or US exports will be subject to higher tariffs (either by the US or by foreign nations in retaliation. Lower sales will result in plant and port layoffs.Works in both directions as you point out. Seems like Kenny Rogers had a hit song something along these lines, our trading countries/partners need our markets as much if not more than we theirs currently. As pointed out previously, there will be pain to right this ship.
FJB & FJT
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China is starting to actually enforce it's own rules/regulations RE imports, these have been in place for many years but weren't enforced which has many U.S. product laden cargo ships holding offshore currently. Will they do the same for other countries products?
FJB & FJT
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Looks like its going to cost more for the Chinese people to eat. Better start growing soybean. China is already switching grain suppliers; US farmers will be the losers. And, these are long-term agreements, so it will be difficult for US farmers to recover these lost sales for many years. So these other grain suppliers can pick up China and still full fill current obligations?
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my understanding in re. spybeans is the US already sitti g on a schidt ton of soybean reserves. and we are still producing more we are ent selling
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
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Soylent Green is soybeans and people. Viva la soybean
All I know is I have a 1000's of acres of it around me and it will not be harvested until at least 3 weeks into the deer season. All is good. Plus I will eat more slug burgers to help.
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who the hell eats soybeans, besides f-ags like paddler.
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God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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who the hell eats soybeans, besides f-ags like paddler. Slug burgers rock. A little pork or beef and soy as an extender. Fried and placed on a bun, dressed out.
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God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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Even have festivals for the slug burger.
99 cents of joy they are.
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Big Daddy Trump will make it work out, we have been giving our work away for years. He’s try to get it back. We have saved lots of jobs since he took office.
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Hey Paddler. Is 801-277-7176 your correct phone number?
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Lotsa farmers vote democrat.
The Montana Farmers Union is a STRONG democrat outfit.
The politics of food is mind boggling.
I would not worry too much about South America.
I am MAGA.
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Grain markets this time of year can go into the pits. hanging on like I do is roiling the dice. Crop reports come out calling for a big crop, and Cady bar the door.
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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Used to be a crop report comes out calling for a short crop and the price would go up.
Not anymore.
Crop report comes out, positive or negative and the market is the limit down.
If someone does screw up a gets caught short the elevator takes it twice in the basis.
Then there is giving your whole crop to the BNSF every four years........
Try farming they said....it'l be fun they said.....
I am MAGA.
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These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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