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Right on Pappy. It'll be on clearance from my house too.......
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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New member with 20 posts, 17 of which directly pimp "Tract" in the title or body. Schills gotta do better than that, if'n you're going to schill for real. A geography lesson might assist here. I live 13,000 miles from the States. The Tract brand means nothing here, and didn't to me until I bought a Toric direct from the States to try one. Accordingly, I have made my mind up about the 'scope well beyond any influence and in hunting conditions. Not in air conditioned office conditions This year I've shot 16 deer using the Toric. The only bias I have is that I own one (and the Toric binos), and am impressed.
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Campfire Greenhorn
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Right on Pappy. It'll be on clearance from my house too....... Exactly. I repeat this: I've got a mate who imported a Tract Toric on my word, and his rifle shot all over the place with it. He and I were very disappointed. He returned the 'scope to the States stating it wouldn't track. Tract reimbursed him the freight. The conversations with Tract by email were timely and polite. Tract box tested the 'scope and reported it as perfect, and freighted it back along with the box test target (using a heavy barrel 308). In the mean time my mate found that his new 300 mag was not stabilising the 110grn TTSX projectiles - and that was the problem, not the 'scope at all. Its back on the rifle shooting 150 grn projectiles perfectly. I would call that top notch service.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Campfire Kahuna
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NZsika,
Based on my own experience with a 3-15x Toric, I'm betting yours has just kept tracking perfectly. Even sent mine to a friend who did a drop test, and it not only held zero but kept tracking.
One of the several tests I ran on mine was eye relief, which is listed as close to 4 inches and not varying much at all from 3-15x. I checked it out and my scope matched the listed specs.
Personally, I'm thinking about one of the 2-10's, since they're considerably more compact than the 3-15x, and at 18.6 ounces somewhat lighter.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
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Regardless of the opinions about Tract the guys running the company are stand up men. They stand behind their product and truly want to help guys out any way they can. Yes, time will tell how Tract holds up in the market. Sure they have a different business model but whose it say it won't work? Just imagine how much we could save in everything we bought he no middle man?
NRA LIfe Member, Colt, Sig, Smith & Wesson, Springfield Armorer, NYBIN , NYPD Firearms Examiner, Serial Number Restoration, Cerakote, Gunkote, and Duracoat finishes
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I'm pretty confident in my reading comprehension, listening, and observation skills. I get paid to do all three for a living. But I'll try to get even better. Thanks for the concern though.
I'll soldier on in my purported half-brained, dimwitted, dumbassed, poorly-skilled successes while you guys check out Tract optics and prove them out to be failures as a product and a business model. Have fun along the way, and have a good day.
I'm curious as to your profession or field of vocation.
There are 2 rules to success:
1. Never tell everything that you know.
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Personally, I'm thinking about one of the 2-10's, since they're considerably more compact than the 3-15x, and at 18.6 ounces somewhat lighter. I have been very pleased with mine. I've only put 892 rounds through it and the rifle, dialing much of the time, but it's been perfect so far.
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Campfire Tracker
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....
Personally, I'm thinking about one of the 2-10's, since they're considerably more compact than the 3-15x, and at 18.6 ounces somewhat lighter. I have been very pleased with mine. I've only put 892 rounds through it and the rifle, dialing much of the time, but it's been perfect so far. That's the one I'd opt for, if I was looking for a scope. Lighter, more compact, good optics, seems like it tracks well based on these two responses.
"Blessed is the man whose wife is his best friend - especially if she likes to HUNT!"
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A couple of notes on the 2-10x42 that don't get considered very often.
At 18.6 oz for a 1" scope it's a fairly heavy scope...some people say that to get a reliable/dependable scope it has to be heavy. This one carries a little weight in a fairly compact package.
After using a lot of different "tough" scopes over the past year I've found many of them are very finicky in how you have to use them. Things like having very little leeway for head placement on all powers, parallax settings must be exact or clarity/resolution are poor, change of head position/eye relief with change of power, fine reticles that are very hard to pick up in thick backgrounds and low light....etc. The 2-10x42 is a very easy to use scope regarding all of these things. Those things make little difference when shooting from the bench but can make a big difference when hunting. Of course, if it won't hold zero all of those positives don't amount to much, but if it is reliable holding zero and returning to zero (which the 2-10x42 has for me) all of those positive characteristics are very valuable to me in a hunting scope.
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Campfire Regular
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A couple of notes on the 2-10x42 that don't get considered very often.
At 18.6 oz for a 1" scope it's a fairly heavy scope...some people say that to get a reliable/dependable scope it has to be heavy. This one carries a little weight in a fairly compact package.
After using a lot of different "tough" scopes over the past year I've found many of them are very finicky in how you have to use them. Things like having very little leeway for head placement on all powers, parallax settings must be exact or clarity/resolution are poor, change of head position/eye relief with change of power, fine reticles that are very hard to pick up in thick backgrounds and low light....etc. The 2-10x42 is a very easy to use scope regarding all of these things. Those things make little difference when shooting from the bench but can make a big difference when hunting. Of course, if it won't hold zero all of those positives don't amount to much, but if it is reliable holding zero and returning to zero (which the 2-10x42 has for me) all of those positive characteristics are very valuable to me in a hunting scope. I am using the Toric 2-10x42 on two rifles. My experience mirrors JCMCUBIC's assessment of how easy it is to use and his use (and others) of it reassures me that it will continue to perform well under my much lighter use.
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