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I don't know enough about the tariff details to argue one way or the other..... Regarding this post though, I'm surrounded by farmers and have known most of them and their kids since I was a kid. One of them rents some land from me that he planted in beans this year. Another rents land from my father. My 14 year old kid is doing summer work for local farmers just like I did growing up. We see these people all the time. I don't know a single person in the steel industry...but you say everyone involved with production of this or that is in the steel industry. That may be true, but none of those people are going to carry the cost of higher steel. It will be passed on to the end buyer. It won't work that way for the farmer.

Again, I don't know enough about the tariffs to argue one way or the other for it but I can see it effecting people I know.

thats exactly how we got to were we are. Its not right for them to not care, it doesn't "give" you the right to ignore them. Works in gun control too. See Neimoeller....

But then again I don't hold out much hope for the country for that much longer anyway due to the self centered nature of most folks

Many people can't see past tomorrow.

Its all about them.

China has been benefiting and America has been paying the price, it just didn't hit you yet. And your justifacation as to why you don't give a [bleep] about the health of this country is typical.

"Crop Subsidies In Foreign Countries"
https://www.depts.ttu.edu/ceri/Default.aspx

"Foreign Subsidies Hurt American Farmers"
https://www.realclearpolicy.com/art...sidies_hurt_american_farmers_110525.html

"Report finds Chinese steel heavily subsidized "
https://www.nwitimes.com/business/s...0f3f325-f230-5ff5-a57b-675200e5d0de.html

"The Case for Canada’s Steel Industry"
https://www.usw.ca/news/publication...ions/the-case-for-canadas-steel-industry

"Getting Trade Right
Addressing Chinese Overcapacity"
http://www.aluminum.org/getting-trade-right

Not soybeans, but other industries are affected also, as described in this Washington Post Business article: "How Trump’s Tariffs on Mexico are Taking Jobs from U.S. Workers".

see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...a488d29&wpisrc=nl_az_most&wpmk=1

Here's the way I see it.......Trump puts tariffs on steel and aluminum rom China AND from some of our other trading partners as well, and people like you go all crazy, posting MAGA and kissing Trumps azz at every turn......when all it accomplished was helping one segment of the population, while another segment got hurt when China retaliated.......as everyone knew it would. In the end, what did it really accomplish?

I derive a good portion of my income from farming, and a drop in the price of grain is ultimately going to hurt me. So, why wouldn't I be concerned? But, someone like you has NO idea. You eat 3 times a day, probably too much, and you don't think for one second where that food comes from, or who produced it. Just as long as you can stuff your gut, that's all that matters to you. Yet, you think it's just great that Trump's "hurting" China, never thinking that maybe the person who produced that food for you, got hurt in the deal.

I will repeat what I said in my first post........for every person or industry that a tariff helps, there will be another one that it hurts. There never has been such a thing as "fair" trade, and probably never will be. Someone always ends up getting screwed, and although China may screw us on some things, I'm sure that we're screwing someone else in return.

Ordered on the 18th and it arrived today.

Same here. Ordered one for the old man too.

Came with a Promo Hog coozie..

I would love to order one for that old fool Paddler, just to watch him stroke out when he opened it............

He is all about gettin’ free chit!