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I've been eyeing these two rifles. Have been reading reviews about the EW having a thick grip area that some people don't like and some inconsistent accuracy reviews.

Just wondering if the newer EW stock (gray webbing) is a bit slimmer than the old one and whether you'd pick a Tikka or the EW between the two?

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They are really very different rifles. I've had the older T3 lite in the past and currently have a Tikka CTR. I've had one of the EW's 8-9 years now. I ran across the EW used in 308 at a good price and hunted with it as is the 1st season or 2. I liked it, but didn't love it. Someone placed a used Edge stock up for sale here in the Classifieds and after putting that stock on it the EW has become my go-to rifle. The factory stock is a good one, but is heavier and thicker than I like. The Edge stock isn't just trimmer feeling, it is 7 oz lighter. The newer EW stock is no different other than color.

Right now my EW weighs 7.5 lbs with a Zeiss Conquest in Talley Lightweight mounts. I think that is a good balance between being light enough to carry, yet still enough heft to shoot well. Mine is consistently accurate with any bullet I've tried in it. Personally I like the more traditional looks of the EW even in SS/Synthetic. I like the CRF action and Winchester safety.

The Tikka is a modernistic looking rifle that will be over a pound lighter than an out of the box EW. It will still be almost 1/2 lb lighter than my EW with the Edge stock on it. Based on my experience the odds of getting an extremely accurate Tikka are a little better. But I doubt I'd be disappointed in an EW. I don't necessarily dislike detachable magazines,but the Tikka mags are more expensive than they should be. Standard mags are 3+1, but in standard calibers 5+1 is available although the 5 round mags do protrude below the stock a bit. The Winchester is 5+1 with a floorplate which I just like a little better.

I like my rifle EW up the way it is better. But the rifles are more expensive then the added costs of a replacement stock will about double what an out of the box Tikka will cost. If I were going to use it as it came out of the box I'd probably buy the Tikka. You really need to handle some of both to decide.


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Agree with everything JMR wrote above. While the EW stock is functional, everything is better with the EW dropped in a micky. So then you are into the EW for 2x a tikka and will be hard pressed to meet accuracy of the out of box t3. Have and like both, but if cost is an issue I’d go T3x even though I’m an m70 fan.

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I agree with everything said above but I disagree on the statement that the EW stock has never changed, the newer grey spiderweb stocks on the EW is most certainly a slimmer stock especially through the pistol grip area and a little lighter weight to boot....between these two I would buy an EW as I like the build quality and CRF but if cost is a factor in your decision I would pick the T3x, My guess is the Tikka might also edge out the EW in the accuracy dept....Good luck...Hb

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You’re comparing apples to watermelon. I’d pick the M70 10 of 10 tines over the tikka. I have owned both and sold both. Tho M70 is just a better built rifle than the tikka. But, the stock is a beast. I traded the m70 on a Kimber Hunter and I traded the tikka for partial towards a gunsafe.

Both guns were plenty accurate, btw.


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Questions like these suck. Most of us here have had both, yet it just boils down to personal preference and what one is willing to pay. Most of us here will also agree that the tikka will shoot better out of the box, plus it's less expensive. I'm a model 70 guy, but would pick the tikka, if looking for a great rifle that is both accurate and affordable. I'm also one that does not like the 2x4 ew stock. They have been garbage since their inception. I'd take an older classic stainless over a tikka (BTDT) though, but that was not the op's question...


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I do not see any reason to purchase anything else, factory new, other then a Tikka T3x.

They are that good.


If I want "something else", I´ll go custom...


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Originally Posted by Northman
I do not see any reason to purchase anything else, factory new, other then a Tikka T3x.

They are that good.


If I want "something else", I´ll go custom...

Hard to argue here, Tikka T3x is a great rifle......Hb

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I currently have both of these, my EW is a 30-06 and the tikka is a 6.5cm. The stock on the EW has changed significantly I had an older one made 6-7 years ago that I gave to my dad, the one I have now is only about a year old.

Both are excellent guns but different, I think the Winchester is the nicer riflebit it dose cost 2-300 more than the tikka. Accuracy on mine has been just fine, I’ve never had any issues with any Ammo and I’ve tried a bunch, I was actually shooting it yesterday and really enjoying it. Tikkas are tikkas, you personally don’t think they are all that great, nice guns sure but nothing amazing in my opinion. The magazine system works but mags are expensive, about 50 bucks a pop however it seems like you can get them at sportsman’s warehouse now. Bolt is smooth enough but all my rifle bolts are smooth enough. Tikka is lighter than the m70 by about a pound,

If it was me and I could pick just one, I’d take the m70, it’s just a nicer rifle but you pay for that. The pros of the tikka are that it’s lighter and cheaper, the pros of the m70 is the stock is better, jeweled bolt, trigger is better, doesn’t use a detachable magazine.

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I’m a Tikka fan because of the value and accuracy. T3x stocks are functional—not really worth upgrading, but not particularly exciting. I will note the stainless steel stains easier than any SS gun I’ve owned..... Treat it appropriately. I personally find the light weight rifles a little harder to shoot accurately (I think form becomes more important). I’d be content I they were a little heavier. I find myself happily putting heavier scopes on them. They really shoot well (all three of mine regularly shoot 5/8 to 3/4” with hunting bullets. I’ll also note my three do not have the fastest barrels....but they’re fast enough. I don’t have experience with EW rifles. My experience with older Winchester model 70s has been mixed.

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Haven't shot a Winchester for years, but grew up on them. I do check them out and Sako (Tikka) at SHOT each year though. As for the Tikka, I have three T3's, and can only say one bad thing about them - keep reading. They have an 1 MOA guarantee (very few brands offer this), detachable magazine, are lightweight, have a super smooth action, come in stainless, offered in left hand, and are inexpensive. The accuracy is no marketing gimmick. Literally the only rifle brand I've shot where I didn't have to mess with it or ammo. getting it to shoot well. Put a scope on it, picked my favorite ammo. and got a 1" or less groups. Like that easy. I personally can't stand integral magazines as it seems no matter how I open the floor plate, the cartridges are guaranteed to fall on the ground. Plus, they are pain to unload/reload every time you get on/off an ATV, which during Colorado elk seasons, can be multiple times a day. (As others have said, the mags. do cost more than they should.) It's light, it's durable, it's accurate, and it's inexpensive. What's not to like? One thing...the actions are all long actions. Tikka keeps it's price point low because of mass production, the bolts are all the same, the magazines are all the same (they just add spacers for shorter rounds), the stocks are all the same, and the actions are the same. All long action. If you select a short action round, like a 308, it will still have a long action, which means long bolt cycle, full size magazine, and extra weight (though it's pretty light to begin with). It's not really a detriment in any way other than it seems inefficient in my analytical mind. If I had to make a comparison to pistols, I'd call the Tikka's a super-match grade Glock. Simple, reliable, easy to clean/maintain, durable, inexpensive, and extremely accurate.

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Originally Posted by Mountain10mm
If you select a short action round, like a 308, it will still have a long action, which means long bolt cycle



That’s not how it works. The action is the same, but different bolt stops. Short actions rounds use a “short” bolt stop- you’re not pulling it past where it needs to be. Bolt throw is the same as any other SA, and overall action length is about 3/4” longer than a “true” short action.





People make such a big deal about this... but a 223 in a short action doesn’t bother them......

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Form, you are correct. The plastic bolt catch stops the bolt about 1/4" shorter on the 308 vs. a 300 win mag. The bolt dimensions, action dimensions, magazine dimensions are exactly the same. All long action. I agree, it's not a big deal in a rifle like this, but in a more expensive or custom rifle, I'd want the design to be as efficient as possible.

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Excellent points thus far.

I'm old and picky, so in my book, the pros for the Model 70 are the safety, the true short action (if that matters to you), and the fact that the design has been around so long that people know how to work on them and there's a ton of superb aftermarket support. Cons are the stock, the MOA trigger, and the cost. I'm also no fan of fluted barrels, but that's a personal thing.

Pros for the Tikka are balance, accuracy, cost, and not needing to modify it. Cons are the detachable magazine, plus you can't top it off through the loading port.


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Both great rifles but completely different designs. As mentioned, one down side to the Tikka (if getting something chambered in a shorter cartridge) is all the actions are the same long action. Another down side is the plastic mag, they can sometimes tend to pop rounds out. I have 2 for mine and can't leave the mags loaded for any length of time or they expand the lips and start popping rounds out. If you ever drop the Tikka mag, it will likely spill all its contents.

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Originally Posted by Formidilosus


People make such a big deal about this... but a 223 in a short action doesn’t bother them......




Ya I really liked my 223 in my short action Kimber Montana 84M until I started trying to shoot 75gr Amax bullets. They shot amazing out of the rifle but only as a single feed because of the short action.

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Originally Posted by russm86
Both great rifles but completely different designs. As mentioned, one down side to the Tikka (if getting something chambered in a shorter cartridge) is all the actions are the same long action. Another down side is the plastic mag, they can sometimes tend to pop rounds out. I have 2 for mine and can't leave the mags loaded for any length of time or they expand the lips and start popping rounds out. If you ever drop the Tikka mag, it will likely spill all its contents.



Something is up with your mags. Have dozens of them and they get dropped all the time on concrete. The only busted one got run over on pavement.

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I own them both. I would take the EW Winchester ( spider web stock ) every time. No cheapy plastic magazine that's prone to cracking if dropped. This last season my Tikka loaded magazine( 3 rounds ) got dropped in hunting camp on hard ground. Cracked like an egg. No glue known to man will bond that plastic back together. Tried to use Duck tape on it but the extra thickness of the tape would not allow the magazine to fit in the magazine well. Ended being a single shot for the hunt. The EW has the massive positive claw extractor .My EW is in 264 mag & is an absolute tac driver with the Barnes 120gr TSX. Sub 1/2". Solid box magazine with a FLUSH fitting FLOOR PLATE..No magazine protruding down right where you need to hold the rifle. .No need to buy expensive extra magazines.I will take the Winchester hands down. No more Tikka's for me...

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Originally Posted by Mountain10mm
Form, you are correct. The plastic bolt catch stops the bolt about 1/4" shorter on the 308 vs. a 300 win mag. The bolt dimensions, action dimensions, magazine dimensions are exactly the same. All long action. I agree, it's not a big deal in a rifle like this, but in a more expensive or custom rifle, I'd want the design to be as efficient as possible.



It’s metal.

Have you ever owned a Tikka?





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Originally Posted by Mountain10mm
Form, you are correct. The plastic bolt catch stops the bolt about 1/4" shorter on the 308 vs. a 300 win mag. The bolt dimensions, action dimensions, magazine dimensions are exactly the same. All long action. I agree, it's not a big deal in a rifle like this, but in a more expensive or custom rifle, I'd want the design to be as efficient as possible.



It’s metal.

Have you ever owned a Tikka?

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I have three of them. It's the bolt removal button the right side of the receiver. There's a stop on the inside of the lever that catches the bolt. I thought those were hard plastic, will have to check when I get home. If it's metal it's metal.

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