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Dear Derek,

Larry lives in Alaska, far from the mainland. The Bush Plane that delivers his psychological disorder medicine each month was delayed due to no fault of his own.

When Big Stick is off his medication, even briefly, the effects are spectacular, as you’v seen...The last time this happened, Boxer was found deep in the bush running naked grunting and rutting like a sow bear in heat...Hunters found him and could only get him to come to them after baiting a site with a week old salmon carcass.

It eventually worked and the hunters were able to catch Larry in a leg snare... Then, they thankfully returned him to the Rez where he recieved his long over due dose of “Purple Drank”.

Please forgive his latest tyrannical rant at you, Ben, and your company. Signs are being posted as I write this for native Alaskians to be on the look out for Larry. Searchers are out, posses have formed with salmon and Purple Drank ready to be deployed once he’s spotted.

In the meantime while we await capture...Feel free to mail me Larry’s 1000 rounds of replacement brass in 26 Nosler. I will keep it in trust for when Big Stick returns...You can PM me for my shipping information.

Thank you for your understanding.

Beaver10 😎

Then why mention it and why not produce it, if it's important to 'you'?


"When you are shooting long distances, over 500 meters, the smallest “inconsistencies” between each loaded round can make the difference between hitting your intended target and missing by a meter or more. When we mention small “inconsistencies” in each round, we aren’t talking about using the wrong powder or primer. We are talking about 1 or 2 extra grains of the correct powder. We are talking about the projectile weighing more than a grain different from the last projectile. We are talking about the casing having a slight variation in internal volume, or the casing’s neck being a little thicker on one side. We are talking about the casing having a non-uniform flash hole. All of these “inconsistencies” can make a difference when this shot is expected to perform exactly the same as the last shot at great distances."


https://www.petersoncartridge.com/our-process/accuracy-precision

So......what are the odds Derek chimes in again? I'll be checking my phone while I'm at the barbershop getting my hair punched.

Serious question,

Would those erratic flash holes directly effect accuracy by changing your point of impact, as in possible changes of hitting left or right of your target? Or is it more of a cause of variations in FPS per load thereby changing poi vertically?

MM

Ok, that was funny.

It actually was.

Peterson Brass

We don't punch any corners.






The stupidity is utterly facinating.

Yeah - my take home is Peterson was not represented well here in any way, product nor support. The bumbling explanation by the president was a bad move...

Greg,
I'm still here. Just observing. I don't understand why you made that comment. We tried to reason with Larry, work with him, and replace his product for free including shipping. As for the explanation I gave, how would you go about reasoning and trying to explain a topic to someone who everytime you mention something he goes on a 3 page rant. He didn't want an answer, he wants a problem. If you or anyone have any genuine questions, I would be more than happy to answer them, I'm just out in the shop keeping an eye on the machinery.

Please state tool to be used for said punching.

I take it that the company you work for is family owned, I ask as you do not seem to be a quick learner.

I own a business too for context. How to reason? Answer - you don't engage or reason. No internet forums defending your product. Let the product speak. You can't fluff the players.

My consult bill is in the mail...grin...

Correct, otherwise you end up being the quail with no feathers. Particularly on a public forum.

Sure. We use a punch and backing die combination. The punch is a hardened piece of carbide the diameter the flash hole needs to be. For large rifle, .080". For our small rifle, .060". The backing stem, which is also carbide to hold its' edge, is inserted into the mouth of the casing and contacts the inside of the bottom of the casing. The casing is then driven, by the backing stem, onto an alignment guide which contains the carbide punch. The way we have improved the punching operation since Larry received his casings, is by designing a more accurate guide bushing, that the casing is pushed on to, so the flash hole is more centered in the primer pocket. Before the new upgrade, from time to time you could get a casing with a flash hole out of center by about .000" - .015". Since the improvement we are now about .000 - .004"

If I'm reading this right the backing stem would have a hole in the middle to accommodate the punched out brass bit and the tip of the punch as it comes through. The improvement of the guide bushing allowing for better control of the hole location would then allow for a smaller diameter hole in the backing stem. This in turn would lead to a cleaner edged hole and less dishing of the bottom of the primer side of the primer pocket.

Am I on track here?

Well you have gone this far and committed, so how about a tour of the facility and process through these fora.

Welcome! Derek, it looks like you may become a full fledge regular to the Fire. You’ve met most here on this thread. Possibly venture out into some of our other non controversial headings, like the Optics Forum. Lots to learn in there...😎

Man...that was just mean!

I figured Larry had logged off, so cooler heads might prevail if I tried to answer any remaining questions. This whole thing has just been really strange. We have sold millions of casings over the past 3 years, and never had a complaint like Larry's. We have tens of thousands of customers, many setting world records and winning matches with our products. Pretty much everyone who shoots a Cheytac in the USA or the world shoots our brass because of our quality. Hell, Derek Rogers won king of 2 mile with our brass just last year. (He got beat this year by a 416 Barrett). We've never seen any complaints with pictures like the ones Larry took. That is one of the main reasons I wanted to replace his brass, besides it being the right thing to do. Just to get a closer look at them with my own eyes. But either way, I don't want to fight a battle I can't win.

Haha. Ya, anyone can come for a factory visit anytime. If you live too far away for a visit, here is a video our local cable company did on our shop.
If you do live close to Pittsburgh, anyone can come for a plant tour. I work every day, so pretty much anytime is good for me.