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How did we kill 'em before? Interesting question.
I'm not like most of the hunters you may meet. I'm more used to a shotgun than a rifle. Ohio was a shotgun only deer state until recently. Yes, I know rifles are more accurate, but it was not an option, so you learn to do it with less. Often by using a sabot round in a rifled shotgun barrel.
Second, most of my guns are hand me down family guns, and it was customary to learn the gun as is, rather than tune it to you with parts trades, and better triggers, though I may change out a scope, I generally shoot them as my parents and grandparents did. It's kind of a legacy thing, the passing of an heirloom. I just passed a shotgun to my son that has been used now for 4 generations.
I have no aversion to high grade gear, but I've never really had much. I own an AR-15, but I'm very much at home with a minimal bow and no sights. I've never used a release.and I'm pretty sure I shoot a bow differently than you do. I never hold at full draw, as most people do.
Third, all of my outdoor activities, hunting, fishing, camping, boating, is all paid for by recycling metals and side jobs. So an eotech or aimpoint is just not gonna happen. Neither will that best quality deer rifle, and that new camo pattern. I'll make do with a tasco If that is all I've got, camo that worked just fine 20 years ago. (It still does).
Forth, I have gone primitive, to see how if I could still get meat. Spears were a waste of time. A bent sapling and a boot lace will serve as a bow long enough to kill, and I still use a slingshot to this day on small game. I get razzed here regularly for even mentioning it.
Fifth, i do not reload (yet) so i buy factory ammo and use it. It works, and the length of the blood trail is dependent upon how well i did my part. If i placed that chunk of metal where it matters, i will have meat in the freezer. As for the antlers, I've never found a good recipe. There are no mounts on my walls, just bow and gear racks at the cabin in shapes to remember certain hunts.
Sixth, I've never even owned a single piece of scentlok clothing, or activated carbon.

I must be a terrible hunter, as there are only 3 deer hearts left from last season in the freezer for tomorrow's dinner. Too bad I only got in one hunting trip last season.

Nice post and leaves little to be said.

In response to the OP question, the game remains the same, only the game we choose to play has changed.

too hard, too much penetration ,etc,. .. Like those folks that carry too much (excess) money in their wallet.

Come to think of it I have carried excess scope magnification and too much gun for yrs , but so do many of
those unwashed types that don't use premium bullets.

those vain folks that wear too much cheap perfume or aftershave are the ones that really Fu*#&ing annoy me...



The long established NPs seem to be the common benchmark...

what made it a premium soft was its weight retention and controlled expansion, for deeper more reliable penetration.
Its deemed superior for certain task requirements..and has a greater range of multi task capability than some other
'lesser' designs.

No offense to anyone but I differ on that.
Yes factory ammo kills game for ALL those who don’t handload.

( P P here does not mean Power Point )
How many wounded game animals escape from ALL those shot with P P bullets. I have used a little factory ammo and saw the results of
P P bullets. I pulled those P P bullets and substituted good NOT premium bullets.

We will NOT EVER know the answer to that ?

It’s my opinion only but I feel to use the % of hunters who don’t reload to justify NOT getting / using / loading / the best you have available

is Just an EXCUSE.

No One Need Agree w/Me OR YMMV

Yes we did, and some still do. But, many move along with new technology. And, some use one caliber and one bullet type for all of their hunting. Using the aforementioned criteria....what’s great for elk, bear, or moose, may be a bit much for deer....but is still effective! memtb

I used a .30-30 for years, not knowing it was "entirely inadequate".

Still use it. So far, it hasn't failed.

[quote=horse1]Well, this’ll piss a few folks off. However, for the most part on deer at least, when I’ve decided to pull the trigger, it’s because I want thatparticular deer’s set of antlers. I really don’t care what angle the deer gives me, I just want to have enough bullet to get to the vitals, even if that means an entry through the rear quarters.[/quote

Naw that's about right....

Back in the day, I just used a state-of-the-art spear-chucker. I can't even spell it... At- something....

But damn- that was a THING!

This, lets not find another way to divide ourselves up. That said I been shooting Remington plain Jane green box Coreloks for as long as I can recall.
For my type of hunting and ranges I do currently they do the job. Dang straight if I thought I needed or just wanted to go to something else I wouldnt hesitate. The exeption are my weatherby 270 and 300wby mags were I use weatherby ammo with partitions. But I havent hunted with those in a decade.

The Fire never fails to impress.

I've never run into the deer that I couldn't kill cleanly with a Core-Lokt or Power-Point. Some of my most lackluster results on deer came from reloading with Sierra Pro Hunters.

Atlatl, short spear thower.

Mike

"..I've never run into the deer that I couldn't kill cleanly with a Core-Lokt or Power-Point. Some of my most lackluster results on deer came from reloading with Sierra Pro Hunters. "

A sincere ? Do you consider S Pro Hunters a "good" bullet, surely NOT a premium bullet?

Note, I said above ----- "I pulled those P P bullets and substituted good NOT premium bullets."

For the RECORD, I've said before --- I've never shot ONE animal with a N P or other Premium bullets.

I tried then new Winchester fail safes 308 win and 150gr on a small mule deer buck, shot him 3 times each bullet went threw him with like ball ammo, he finally went down no expansion at all.

Well-said

I do pretty well with my Browning BLR in 30/06 with Rem Core Lokt and my Marlin Guide Gun 45/70.

When hunting with round lead balls ,I use only premium round lead balls.

And premium flints.

😁

Thanks for the response, the idea was just to spur discussion. I actually am a believer in "premium" bullets for moose and elk - having said that, I have shot two elk and two moose with "standard" bullets and only one moose with "premium" (interbonds).

I agree. Very well-said. But there is a mentality today that a Power-point or a core-lokt or an Interlock simply flies apart on deer.

Me neither. And you can add the generic Federal "power Shok" bullet to my list too. Course I don't shoot deer in the azz either.