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Since Texas is full of steers and queers, you'd think 270's would be the first choice....
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A quick check of ammo sales in TX confirms your theory 
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Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
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I’m the bearded fella you sunsabitches.
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OP doesn't need a new rifle. He has a 6.5 Sweed and a .270, and he still Hand loads. He wants a new rifle, and that is OK.
Of the two, I would say 7-08. Really, I would recommend a .243 loaded with 85 TSX, 95, or 100 NP. These bullets put the .243 on steroids.
I understand age and recoil, as I'm bumping 81. Due to health issues, I'm on blood thinners and bruise easily. Also recoil is not kind to old bones.
Best wishes,
Jack
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Really, I would recommend a .243 loaded with 85 TSX, 95, or 100 NP. These bullets put the .243 on steroids.
Jack A .243 with 8 twist and a 3" box would be the way I'd want it. Otherwise, I'd probably go with something else. And I'd see what it would do with new powders and 100+ gr. bullets. DF
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I’m the bearded fella you sunsabitches.
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the 280, because i have one
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Re: Jack's response ....Finally sumbody who has some insight in living with a lifetime 'scrip for Plavix to keep my 4 heart stents as "clean and clot free" as possible, and learning to put up with the probable "need" - that I ain't gonna do - for another trip the surgery shop to let the doc play with fine tuning my right shoulder ...again. Those fun and games with the people who wear scrubs for a living will take longer to recover form and get past than I have left above ground most likely.
So I'm re doing and thinning the shooters to something I can best use in my Last Years of being able to pull a trigger at fur, any fur from coyotes to WT's and any exotics that wander along here in Texas. Hogs,. as common as they are nowdays here at home, for me have always been targets of opportunity and not a primary target, but have never had shots at anything much bigger than 150+ lbs and all the calibers I'm looking at will suffice quite nicely.
Right now the "battery" will concentrate of calibers that also have cheap and common factory ammo for when I get past the need/desire to reload too, in the middle of the classic WT centric calibers from a 6.5 Something , 7x57/7-08/308 to 270's (just for old times sake).
Thanks All for the comments and insights
Ron
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Couldn't help myself and bought a WMart VG 2 Select (what a misnomer name for a base grade rifle) 308 to play with, and a VG 2 Sporter in 243 - the very last Short Action Sporter in 4 counties and looking to trade it for a Sporter 308 or similar blue steel and wood stock. I'm lookin at these VG's as the everday shooter guns for a very small battery. 1st 308 I've bought since 1976 after we moved home from my corporate gypsy days....wish't I'd kept that SAKO Standad Grade as it was almost a one hole shooter with plain vanilla WW & Federal factory ammo.
Ron
TIME FOR TERM LIMITS !!!! Politicians are just like diapers, they need to be changed often and regularly for the same reason...Robin Williams.
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God bless Texas-----------------------
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I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull
Its not how you pick the booger..
but where you put it !!
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Being that you want available factory Ammo, I’d take the 7mm08, even though I’m a big 280 fan and my favorite rifle is my 280. The 7mm08 had more factory ammo options, and is more easily found. In addition to the 7mm08, and also consider a 6.5 Creedmoor. Seems to be plenty of ammo around for them, and they will handle everything you’ve said you plan to do.
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Factory ammo, 6.5CM is MAGA. 270 is more MAGA, but old skool MAGA....
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I admit to not owning a .280 but I do have a 7-08 and I did live in Texas for 3 years. FWIW - I can't think of anything that walks in TX I'd not shot with a 7-08 and a 120/140 TTSX that I would shoot with a 280 with a 120/140 TTSX (insert favorite bullet).
Comes down to the rifle, not the headstamp for me.
Actually - what wouldn't you shoot in any state with a 7-08 and a 140 TTSX? Griz? Muskox? Bison? - bout it I'd think.
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Factory ammo, 6.5CM is MAGA. 270 is more MAGA, but old skool MAGA.... 6.5x55 - KAG Nothing I would not hunt with a 6mmBR, or 243 in Texas. Loading 140s at 2960 in a 7/08, never felt a need for pushing a 7mm faster.
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Loading 140s at 2960 in a 7/08, never felt a need for pushing a 7mm faster.
How are you doing that?
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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If you can get enough powder in the case, I think it can be done. Don't own one and don't want one, so I won't be verifying it. Note that this is with a 22-inch barrel plugged in. Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 140, Nosler PART SP 16325
Useable Case Capaci: 48.679 grain H2O = 3.161 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-16
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.401% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-04.0 108 47.04 2850 2525 54151 10233 99.1 1.102
-03.6 108 47.23 2862 2547 54935 10260 99.2 1.094
-03.2 109 47.43 2875 2569 55732 10286 99.3 1.087
-02.8 109 47.62 2887 2591 56543 10311 99.4 1.080
-02.4 109 47.82 2899 2613 57365 10335 99.4 1.074
-02.0 110 48.02 2911 2635 58189 10359 99.5 1.067
-01.6 110 48.21 2924 2657 59054 10381 99.6 1.060
-01.2 111 48.41 2936 2679 59920 10402 99.6 1.053
-00.8 111 48.61 2948 2702 60799 10423 99.7 1.046
-00.4 112 48.80 2960 2724 61694 10443 99.8 1.040
+00.0 112 49.00 2973 2747 62598 10461 99.8 1.033
+00.4 113 49.20 2985 2769 63528 10479 99.8 1.027
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 112 49.00 3101 2990 77242 9965 100.0 0.954 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 112 49.00 2782 2405 49942 10469 95.3 1.138
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Thanks for the info, but I think I'd have to pass.
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2850 kills elk at 350 yards. Ask me how I know.
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I believe there was a guy from Texas who used to post here who killed all kinds of stuff with a Montana in 7mm08. Wonder what’s become of DJTex? I always enjoyed his posts, he was a good writer and story-teller.
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