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build a fence around all civilized humans. have access doors to the wild side, and sign a certificate that no one will come rescue anyone who chooses to enter on their own accord?
no one wants to be eaten by a carnivore. but the carnivores do have the right to live, right? just not in my backyard. that's what i told the landfill & nuclear power people the other day. they said they heard me. lol.
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Campfire Kahuna
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_______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack
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These are sad stories. I have a friend bow hunting about 30 mi north of YNP now and I will be rifle-hunting in the same area the end of Oct. In 2013 in the same drainages I saw a large grizzly a bit off on a side-hill; and then another, the first bears I’ve seen in the lower 48 outside YNP and the Bob. They are definitely getting around.
Not that the handgun did any good here, but, I’ve said it before — spare me the food-condiment spray speal.
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there's lot's to speak about here. but no need to get in a real hurry i don't suppose.
factors to consider for future discussion relates to self-responsibility.
people who hunt wildlands are doing so for a reason.
i think they should be able to do so. for sure.
bears live in the world. it's a risk factor.
what if people take un-due risks?
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Campfire Outfitter
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Prayers for the fallen, and to his family.
An unemployed Jester, is nobody's Fool.
the only real difference between a good tracker and a bad tracker, is observation. all the same data is present for both. The rest, is understanding what you're seeing.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Retired cat herder.
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Campfire Oracle
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Looks like they aren't sure if they will kill the bear if they catch it. Probably just relocate it to New York. https://www.jhnewsandguide.com/this_just_in/article_fb78dcc0-94a9-5dab-804d-23991c46f90c.html'A Jackson Hole businessman, hunting guide and father of five was found dead Saturday afternoon near where he was attacked while retrieving a client’s elk carcass Friday afternoon. The body of Mark Uptain, a 37-year-old guide for Martin Outfitters, was discovered around 1:15 p.m. Saturday about a quarter-mile to the northwest of where he and client Corey Chubon were processing an elk that was struck by an arrow Thursday. The elk was located and attack occurred the next day. Pending an investigation, it’s unclear if Uptain had been fed upon, but Teton County Search and Rescue Coordinator and incident commander Jessica King said that his body was intact.'
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Campfire Tracker
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If these all pan out to be grizzly attacks, people need to send cards/ or victims pictures if they have them to the judge, lawyer and board for the bear protection group every holiday and then be sure to send them on on the birthday of all attacked by grizzlies and be sure to include pictures. STOP as soon as they take legal action to stop it.
Last edited by LouisB; 09/15/18.
Some spelling errors can be corrected by a vowel movement. ~ MOLON LABE ~
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Campfire 'Bwana
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So the bear dragged the other guy 400 yards? Or he made it that far after the bear left off mauling him?
I take it this was bow season, could those guy have legally brung a rifle or shotgun with them?
Young father of five, seems like a standup guy. What a tragedy!
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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Campfire Ranger
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So the client flew out of the valley before they discovered the guides body? Is that correct?
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Campfire Tracker
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tossed him the pistol wtf... HERE YOU KILL THE BEAR I AM OUT OF HERE, is what am I thinking as you are the guide. Is what he have been thinking. Just a guess. Cheers NC
don't judge until you have walked a mile in other persons' moccasins' SUM QUOD SUM........HOMINEM TE ESSE MEMENTO
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If these all pan out to be grizzly attacks, people need to send cards/ or victims pictures if they have them to the judge, lawyer and board for the bear protection group every holiday and then be sure to send them on on the birthday of all attacked by grizzlies and be sure to include pictures. STOP as soon as they take legal action to stop it. Yes, grizzles should have no part in the wilderness.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
"Play Cinnamon Girl you Sonuvabitch!"
Biden didn't win the election.
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We were near West Yellowstone the past week and I saw a griz at about 50 yards. It didn’t take long and I was over a mile away...
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Campfire Ranger
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So the bear dragged the other guy 400 yards? Or he made it that far after the bear left off mauling him?
I take it this was bow season, could those guy have legally brung a rifle or shotgun with them?
Young father of five, seems like a standup guy. What a tragedy! Which could probably could have been avoided had he been better at his job.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
"Play Cinnamon Girl you Sonuvabitch!"
Biden didn't win the election.
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Campfire Ranger
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If these all pan out to be grizzly attacks, people need to send cards/ or victims pictures if they have them to the judge, lawyer and board for the bear protection group every holiday and then be sure to send them on on the birthday of all attacked by grizzlies and be sure to include pictures. STOP as soon as they take legal action to stop it. Judges/treehugging hippies think the man being killed is funny - their mentality is ''well he was out there killing stuff - he deserved it'' . The lefty disney pukes view of the world is very twisted . Rest in peace Mark Uptain ...
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
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So the bear dragged the other guy 400 yards? Or he made it that far after the bear left off mauling him?
I take it this was bow season, could those guy have legally brung a rifle or shotgun with them?
Young father of five, seems like a standup guy. What a tragedy! Which could probably could have been avoided had he been better at his job. Billy badazz right here...
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Campfire Ranger
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So the bear dragged the other guy 400 yards? Or he made it that far after the bear left off mauling him?
I take it this was bow season, could those guy have legally brung a rifle or shotgun with them?
Young father of five, seems like a standup guy. What a tragedy! Which could probably could have been avoided had he been better at his job. Billy badazz right here... ^ ^ Dumass right there...
Epstein didn't kill himself.
"Play Cinnamon Girl you Sonuvabitch!"
Biden didn't win the election.
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So the bear dragged the other guy 400 yards? Or he made it that far after the bear left off mauling him?
I take it this was bow season, could those guy have legally brung a rifle or shotgun with them?
Young father of five, seems like a standup guy. What a tragedy! Which could probably could have been avoided had he been better at his job. Billy badazz right here... ^ ^ Dumass right there... Great rebuttal schit for brains. Go [bleep] yourself, the man is dead for phuc sake. You werent there, so you have no way of knowing what he as a guide did or didn't do. Or were you?
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Campfire Ranger
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So the bear dragged the other guy 400 yards? Or he made it that far after the bear left off mauling him?
I take it this was bow season, could those guy have legally brung a rifle or shotgun with them?
Young father of five, seems like a standup guy. What a tragedy! Which could probably could have been avoided had he been better at his job. Billy badazz right here... ^ ^ Dumass right there... Great rebuttal schit for brains. Go [bleep] yourself, the man is dead for phuc sake. And had he been better at his vocation (guiding in grizzley country w/ green horns over a day old kill) he might not be...
Epstein didn't kill himself.
"Play Cinnamon Girl you Sonuvabitch!"
Biden didn't win the election.
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Hey, add. Play cinnamon girl you sonofvabitch
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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