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OK this is some thing i have never seen commented on but at one time i read a document that was recored and studied that determined it make a decise difference on an animals expiration time due to the fact of if the heart was on an inbound or outbound pulse. To be honest I do not remember what beat of the heart affected the out come from the study how ever there was a vast difference in effect of the animals ability to expire,

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Originally Posted by 8mmRem
OK this is some thing i have never seen commented on but at one time i read a document that was recored and studied that determined it make a decise difference on an animals expiration time due to the fact of if the heart was on an inbound or outbound pulse. To be honest I do not remember what beat of the heart affected the out come from the study how ever there was a vast difference in effect of the animals ability to expire,

Don't believe it...


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I always try to steer 'em on the outbound breath, but I have a real hard time figuring out what their heart is doing.

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Originally Posted by 8mmRem
OK this is some thing i have never seen commented on but at one time i read a document that was recored and studied that determined it make a decise difference on an animals expiration time due to the fact of if the heart was on an inbound or outbound pulse. To be honest I do not remember what beat of the heart affected the out come from the study how ever there was a vast difference in effect of the animals ability to expire,



This only comes into play when one is hunting with big, heavy, long, cumbersome, magnablasters.

Sensible rifles and cartridges have no issue shutting down BP whether the heart is pumping on the intake or out going, almost magically crazy


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I just use a 30-06.

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Originally Posted by 8mmRem
... a document that was recored and studied that determined it make a decise difference on an animals expiration time
due to the fact of if the heart was on an inbound or outbound pulse..



The left ventricle is the main blood pumper to major parts of the body and a higher pressure pump that can operate against
a much higher peripheral resistance....right ventricle is a pump ideally suited to lower pressure disposal of blood against a
low peripheral resistance...physics would say that a left ventricle full of blood and under higher operating chamber pressure
would offer a potentially more explosive 'water jug' effect if hit by a projectile.

If you know how to blindly determine when what is taking place and to time a bullets arrival ....combined with learning to shoot between
your own heart beats, you would be on to a winner.... grin

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I prefer Stainless and synthetic. Not uncommon to have bad weather. However, blue will do. I've mostly used a 338WM. I like the caliber. Nothing mysterious about it. I have seen some bang, flops, but I will certainly say not all of them have been. You don't always get a perfect shot. Hence you won't always get perfect shot placement. My best bull was in some thick trees facing away from me and looking back over his shoulder. 2 shots with my 375 H&H did the job. As many have said use the rifle, you shoot well and are confident in, and a premium bullet.


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Did...did anyone else catch the Doug shot Eric thing a page back? Wtf lol

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Got my moose yesterday afternoon with a 30-06.

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Cool! Congrats.
26" barrel, right? whistle laugh


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Had to be, since a 26" barrel reduces the range to the moose by .111 yard compared to the typical 22-inch barrel. That makes a vast difference in killing power.


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The bullet gets there WAY faster too.


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Was out looking for moose yesterday, Had my Ruger 77 LH 35 Whelen IMP., and wife had her RH Ruger 77 338 RCM no bulls to be found so far.


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Originally Posted by SKane
Cool! Congrats.
26" barrel, right? whistle laugh



22”, 180g partition, ~ 280yds.

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Was out looking for moose yesterday, Had my Ruger 77 LH 35 Whelen IMP., and wife had her RH Ruger 77 338 RCM no bulls to be found so far.


35 Whelen is an excellent cartridge.

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I 7WSM'd mine this year. Under 100 yards.

7WSM'd a grizzerly bear about a month ago, and he remains dead as hell too.....

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I 7WSM'd mine this year. Under 100 yards.

7WSM'd a grizzerly bear about a month ago, and he remains dead as hell too.....




Are you sure that’s possible? Better check that bear for signs of life. I read on the Internet........


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At your advice I went and checked...

33 days after the kill. Nothing touched the carcass which I thought was weird. No soft tissue remaining, which... holy crap that seems fast, but I guess a bear might carry some pretty special gut bugs.

Stomach contents appear to have been 99% moose and caribou hair.

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Thank you for you efforts toward ungulate enhancement.


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I’d have to admit that bear looks fairly dead 💀. Tks for checking


I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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