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Originally Posted by jwall
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I have a 70 Black Shadow 300 WM. It's the 5 th 300 WM I've owned. NONE of them kicked like that X/X/X/ OG red pad.


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My 300's, all but the old H&H, are speedy recoilers, kinda rude the way they punch ya, love em though.


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I don't know WHAT it was about THAT rifle. ? ? ?

I've owned several Tanger Red Pads, even one 300 WM and none were like that one.

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Now, speaking of hard fast recoil with a half a ballcap fulla powder, my 505 Gibbs with 145 grs H-4831 under a 600 gr Woodleigh solid at 2450 fps is a pure MF'er! that bitch is rude!


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Originally Posted by jwall
I don't know WHAT it was about THAT rifle. ? ? ?

I've owned several Tanger Red Pads, even one 300 WM and none were like that one.

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10-4, BTDT on a few I couldn't explain either, nice we have checkbooks to remedy those difficulties ; ]


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I saw you snag that rifle and wondered what you’d do with it. My go to rifle for the past ten years or so has been a 22” M70 classic SS in a Mickey HTG. With 210TTSX’s it’s put a pile of meat on the ground and is really pleasant to shoot for a 338. I probably put 200-300 rounds a year though it on steel. It’s topped with a nxs 2.5-10x32 and consistently prints sub .75 4 shot groups. You’ve got a dandy rifle there. Almost wanted to buy it just to make another one for myself.


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Originally Posted by ykrvak
I saw you snag that rifle and wondered what you’d do with it. My go to rifle for the past ten years or so has been a 22” M70 classic SS in a Mickey HTG. With 210TTSX’s it’s put a pile of meat on the ground and is really pleasant to shoot for a 338. I probably put 200-300 rounds a year though it on steel. It’s topped with a nxs 2.5-10x32 and consistently prints sub .75 4 shot groups. You’ve got a dandy rifle there. Almost wanted to buy it just to make another one for myself.


Thanks ykrvak, sounds like you have a nice one too, the minute I dropped this rifle in the painted stock and found a butler creek cap for the scope, I immediately thought of hunting Alaska, have a couple wraps of camo duct tape around the scope tube for the muzzle, I believe it would be right at home in the Great White North. smile


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It certainly would be right at home here, but I’m sure you’ll find a use for it. 😉


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You bet I will, a backup rifle for all conus game, or purpose carry rifle for bad weather, I've never hunted game in Alaska, but cant think of anything up there that would shake off a hit from those 250 gr A-Frames.


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Those 250gr SAF should be sufficient medicine for just about anything that walks around on this side of the planet. I’ve been eyeing those 230gr eld x bullets. Might have to give those a whirl.


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I found them both completely comfortable off the bench with the 250's, but hell, I've been drinking beer, grilling chicken and smoking Dominicans this morning, may have been shooting a bit comfortably numb, works done, I'm at the farm for the weekend, let er rip!

Well not all of us are built like an armored tank either. wink


LOL, and all this coming from a man that choots rabbits with a 460 WBY MAG for fun. laugh

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Everyone should have at least two, of perhaps the finest, all around factory cartridge produced today! Congrats. memtb


I agree buddy.


I ‘would’ agree FOR those who need a 338 WM. Surely WT aren’t that hard to kill. Point being unless you hunt game ‘bigger’ than WT......


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Wabbits. wink


Well of course. How's a native Nevadan supposed to argue with that... grin.. I used every damn thing I could think of for blasting jack rabbits in the high desert. From a model 29-2 44 magnum, to a 12 gauge with slugs. Those slugs really make a mess of things sick. Of course, most times I was packing my 30-06 and a shotgun and my 44 magnum on my side. Good ol days I tell ya... Not many jacks got away.. wink


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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No problem gunner. Looks like a sweet setup.


LOL, best part. is no range officers, worst part is having to run the damn cows outta the way sometimes ; ]


Or honey, go grab the tractor, we got to butcher a cow pronto... Damn things walked in front of the target again.. grin


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Originally Posted by jwall
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I agree DD, the 338's recoil is slower and more well mannered than any of my 300 mags, it reminds me of the 'push' from 375 H&H's.


Well guys, just try one in the 77 Tanger O G 'red pad'. shocked
It ain't like that!


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BTDT. Didn't like it. Just like I hated a savage 110 300wm my buddy had. My arm and hand still go numb everytime I think about firing that damn thing!!!!!! eek Oh, it was an accurate sumbiotch, but I could only shoot it 3 times from the bench. I handed it back and said, "I'm done, you shoot it"..


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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Not disputing the accuracy or effectiveness of the .338 Win, but an ‘80s Winchester M70 synthetic .338 Win was the worst kicking rifle I ever owned. Also could not get it to shoot better than 3” groups either. Happy Trails


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Originally Posted by ykrvak
Those 250gr SAF should be sufficient medicine for just about anything that walks around on this side of the planet. I’ve been eyeing those 230gr eld x bullets. Might have to give those a whirl.


10-4 ykrvak, bet those 230 gr eld-x's will smack tight on steel and ventilate caribou and deer for the freezers with ease.


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Originally Posted by gunner500
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Originally Posted by gunner500
I found them both completely comfortable off the bench with the 250's, but hell, I've been drinking beer, grilling chicken and smoking Dominicans this morning, may have been shooting a bit comfortably numb, works done, I'm at the farm for the weekend, let er rip!

Well not all of us are built like an armored tank either. wink


LOL, and all this coming from a man that choots rabbits with a 460 WBY MAG for fun. laugh

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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
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No problem gunner. Looks like a sweet setup.


LOL, best part. is no range officers, worst part is having to run the damn cows outta the way sometimes ; ]


Or honey, go grab the tractor, we got to butcher a cow pronto... Damn things walked in front of the target again.. grin


LOL, ironically enough, if you look to the top of the range pic MarineHawk posted, that's dew North, on over to the East another 500 yards is where I used to take cattle that had died and do my bullet testing, after testing, you can shoot coyotes off the dead cow for two damn weeks. grin


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Originally Posted by WAM
Not disputing the accuracy or effectiveness of the .338 Win, but an ‘80s Winchester M70 synthetic .338 Win was the worst kicking rifle I ever owned. Also could not get it to shoot better than 3” groups either. Happy Trails


Dang WAM, wish you would have had better luck with that rifle, I just got lucky with this one, I believe four factors came into play with this new rifle, it definitely likes the 250 gr SAF's, Bud done a hell of a job with the files on that crown, Smith done a hell of a job pillar, and action bedding that Tupperware stock, as well as bedding the bottom metal, and ZERO wind. smile


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Originally Posted by MarineHawk
Here is the pic:

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Range pic TTT, camera didn't take for the "Black Rifle Challenge" thread. blush


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