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I think it is a completely different fuel type. chapparal or brush, doesn't produce much of trunk, mostly stems 4-5 inches thick, one bush would take a long time to break down into firewood. then the schidt grows back in 3-5 years, even when burned off.

can't run through it, can't push it over, but is full of resin, burns hot and quick. its what killed the hot shots in yarnell.

not economic to cut or pay to cut, or use afterwords.

from forbes


https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevor...ly-engulfed-in-flames-from-camp-wildfire

I'm no fan of CNN but they have a compelling interview of a nurse who barely survived the fire. A man on a bulldozer came out of the smoke and cleared a path saving lives. Starts at the 3:15 mark.
Paradise Fire

That's probably good advice. I heard 70 something local firefighters are on their way from the flathead volunteer stations. Fighting fires in November seems odd, but at least our crews know wildland fires.

Good luck to them.

This is so heartbreaking to watch my friends and family suffer and towns burn.

The amount of people displaced, the impact to Chico and surrounding areas, the death, and the destruction is just shocking.

Now it's a logistical nightmare; people left without medications, eyeglasses, they have no clothes, no transportation to get to work, if their work is even still standing, and water has to be boiled indefinitely. Officials are becoming very concerned of acute mental health needs as the numbness wears off and the realities set in.

My best friend is now looking to rent temporarily in Clear Lake until he gets his insurance squared away, then he is leaving California. My aunt and uncle got a $15k insurance check today to help them replace some things, but they will also not be rebuilding in Paradise. One friend of mine had his house spared - the only one standing for 2 blocks. There won't be utilities, services, stores, or a community for a long time. His property value may never recover in his lifetime. Does insurance cover that?

The amount of pets, livestock and wildlife killed, injured, and stranded is saddening.

This is California's Katrina, but worse. These people didn't HAVE a chance to plan. Evacuate. Collect belongings. Make an informed decision. Instead, if they weren't traveling 30 MPH or faster, their fate was out of their hands. It was THAT explosive.

Just a sad, sad week.

Not a bad piece of advice regarding firefighting Jim.

But come visit sometime for "fun". Stay away from the SoCal/Bay areas, Suctomento too. Visit the Redwoods, Monterey Bay, the Central Coast, Mt Shasta, maybe ( a big maybe as it can get crowded) the Gold Rush areas in the Sierra foothills, Death Valley, the Eastern Sierra has some cool places too.

And believe it or not, there's a few cool things in our area too. Look up Capt Jack's Stronghold and the Modoc war. A few "Injuns" did a pretty good job of holding off a world power's troops given the circumstances. Lava Beds National Monument is a pretty interesting visit too.

And even more shocking.....................................There's some nice people like me in Cali.

Geno

Sad faces here in my house too and we have no relatives in the area. Sometimes I wish I could do more to help, as in I wish I had a job to offer someone who has lost all.

Geno

Sycamore,

Seems some of you AZ folks know about the same kind of fires as we have here in Cali. Couple of places I hunt remind me so much of where I ran around in SoCal as a kid. Impenetrable stands of brush. Unless one wants to follow javelina trails on your knees.

Seems in both states a number of fires get started in that stuff and work their way into the forested areas, then crown and get really big. But no one wants to pay to keep that brush knocked down around populated areas as it's a recurring need every couple of years if one expects to be successful.

Geno

141,000 acres

40% contained

9,818 homes destroyed

11,862 total structures destroyed

63 dead

Police K9 "Bandit" was killed in a chase that ended in a shooting of a wanted felon parolee and his pitbull.

Missing persons has skyrocketed to 300. Up from 130 yesterday. Hopefully most of those are just missed connections, but it's still bad.

I basically lived up there last year and the year before helping build son's dream home and got to know that little town. I loved it, a little slower paced, nice folks, the Kalico Kitchen chicken fried steak breakfast special, the old Ace hardware. All gone.

A huge chunk of the population was old folks living on social security in mobile homes. I've been in mourning.

It's really a schitty deal.

The fact that Honea is calling in so many troops kinda tells you what the death toll is gonna do...

Yeah, it's very sad to see so many people hurting.
Our community has come together donating several semi truck loads of goods, for the victims of the fire.
KCRA-TV along with the Red-Cross and others have helped come up with close to 1.25+ M. Donations are to be used for food and Motel Rooms.
Prayers offered up for those in need.

The Smoke from the fires has the Air Quality at the poorest I've ever seen.
Right now the AQI Air Quality Index is 329- Hazardous! You need an air mask N-95 if you are outside.

So sad to hear about Bandit. Bandit rolled back into town tonight with an escort from the Sheriff's Office and other local agencies.
Take care.

Where are you located Randy?

As a matter of fact, where the heII are the rest of you Northern California guys located?

"Camp Fire shooting: Officers kill wanted man inside California wildfire evacuation zone




Camp Fire Chico Butte County Officer Involved Shooting

REDDING, California – Multiple deputies were involved in an incident Thursday where a 48-year-old wanted felon was shot and killed after a high-speed pursuit inside the evacuation zone of the Camp Fire in Northern California.

Deputies began the pursuit after receiving calls about a suspicious person near a hardware store. Law enforcement inside the evacuation zone of the wildfire, which is the deadliest and most destructive in the state’s history, are on high alert for suspicious people and looters.

Thousands of first responders from across the country have descended on the area. Their primary task has been to assist in the disaster relief effort and keep the area safe.

“We’ve definitely been dealing with many other things, this is not something we wanted to be involved with,” said Butte County District Attorney Mike Ramsey, whose office is handling the investigation into the shooting.

Authorities are not yet releasing the identity of the man killed, pending the notification of his next of kin.

Ramsey didn’t give details about what the 48-year-old suspect was doing in the area, but he stressed he is not suspected of looting.

Nov. 15: The long, hard process of identifying the dead in California's deadliest wildfire

Nov. 15: Wildfire smoke brings world's worst air quality to northern California

The resident who alerted officers to the suspect's presence said he seemed to have been in the area for about three days.

No deputies were injured in the incident, but a Sutter County Sheriff’s office K9 was killed when deputies opened fire on the suspect. The man’s pit bull, which was in his car before getting out and attacking the Sutter County K9, was also killed.

Deputies from Shasta and Butte counties were involved in the shooting, as well as a Fish and Wildlife Warden. An officer from Sutter County, whose K9 was killed, was involved in the incident but did not open fire."


Very interesting story, it reads like the Pit and K9 might have been going at it while officers tried to end the attack...?

Very sad about the escalating death toll, I suspect it is going to continue rising as they search, and it is listed as 40% contained.

Still shocked, a week later and I knew it was gonna be bad.

Talked to a very old friend (40 years we've known each other) today. Her friends, I've met them years ago, had a house in escrow in Paradise, thinking on moving back to the area. Not likely to be standing now and they haven't a clue how that's going to work out.

She's on the side of the lake the fire jumped to, not under evacuation orders yet.

Her house is the one with the firefighters saving the flag I posted before. She's hoping she doesn't have to go thru it all again.

Sad to hear about the K-9 Cop. Did they kill the perp and his dog? (oops, previous poster and I must have been typing at the same time, thanks for the update)

Geno

Yuba City

Yeah, he's dead.

Hard to fathom WITF he was paroled....

Schit man, we're pretty much neighbors.

I'm in Durham.

It's up by Chico....