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I’m in the market for a set of dies for my .223.
I’ve been loading, single stage RCBS, since the mid 60’s and the process I loath is lubing cases....

Does anyone make a carbide or other die that eliminates the lubing process?
I know the Lee Pro 1000 progressive press apparently works around that issue, some how.

I see Hornady has a titanium nitrate die for pistols..... anything out there I’m missing?
Thanks, in advance 👍

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I grew up using the rcbs pine tar pad to lube cases. What a mess.

Hornady one shot spray lube is all I’ve used the last few years. Love it

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Originally Posted by Blacktail53
I’m in the market for a set of dies for my .223.
I’ve been loading, single stage RCBS, since the mid 60’s and the process I loath is lubing cases....

Does anyone make a carbide or other die that eliminates the lubing process?
I know the Lee Pro 1000 progressive press apparently works around that issue, some how.

I see Hornady has a titanium nitrate die for pistols..... anything out there I’m missing?
Thanks, in advance 👍



Use the Lee case sizing lube. Mix it with a bottle isopropyl alcohol shake well and put in a spray bottle, set your brass up in a load block and spray the cases well, let the alcohol evaporate and your ready to load. No cleanup involved either.


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Originally Posted by Dillon
Lubrication is still required, but the increased scratch resistance and die longevity of carbide are of great benefit...


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I only full-length resize once. After that it's neck sizing only with a carbide expander until the bolt starts closing hard.


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Originally Posted by Dillon
Lubrication is still required, but the increased scratch resistance and die longevity of carbide are of great benefit...


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I've got a Dillon Carbide size die and it's great, but I'd go Redding Type S FL and Lanolin/Alcohol lube sooner than buy another.


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Higbean, do you find lubing the brass to be necessary using those dies?


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Try Imperial sizing wax. I think Redding owns it now.
One swipe across the can is enough to mine 4 or 5 cases.
If you can tell it is on your finger by the lubrication against the case, you have enough.
If you start to get too cheap with it, you will feel increased resistance in the press.
But, it increases gradually, no suddenly stuck case.

Used as above, there is no buildup, and it's the only lube my dumbass doesn't dent shoulders with.

It wipes off easy, and seems to somewhat protect cases from corrosion.


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Originally Posted by Blacktail53
I’m in the market for a set of dies for my .223.
I’ve been loading, single stage RCBS, since the mid 60’s and the process I loath is lubing cases....

Does anyone make a carbide or other die that eliminates the lubing process?
I know the Lee Pro 1000 progressive press apparently works around that issue, some how.

I see Hornady has a titanium nitrate die for pistols..... anything out there I’m missing?
Thanks, in advance 👍


How many rounds will you be loading at a time Do you have a large tumbler?


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Originally Posted by RiverRider
Higbean, do you find lubing the brass to be necessary using those dies?


I don't know if I'd say necessary, but a bit of lube just makes the 550 run a bunch smoother.

I have actually stuck a piece of brass in the carbide die not letting the One Shot sit long enough for the alcohol to vapor off.

I unseated the carbide piece removing it too, which was kinda cool.

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I load several thousand .223 rounds each year.

Hornady one shot has never let me down.


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Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by Blacktail53
I’m in the market for a set of dies for my .223.
I’ve been loading, single stage RCBS, since the mid 60’s and the process I loath is lubing cases....

Does anyone make a carbide or other die that eliminates the lubing process?
I know the Lee Pro 1000 progressive press apparently works around that issue, some how.

I see Hornady has a titanium nitrate die for pistols..... anything out there I’m missing?
Thanks, in advance 👍


How many rounds will you be loading at a time Do you have a large tumbler?



50-100 rounds at a time. I’m not a high volume shooter, nor am I using an autoloader.
Sounds like I’m going to be stuck with lubing.
Maybe use a full length die backed off to neck size or a type S collet die (which I know nothing about)....
Use full length as needed. A tumbler to clean case after sizing......


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Originally Posted by tedthorn
I load several thousand .223 rounds each year.

Hornady one shot has never let me down.

Yep, put a hundred or so in a quart Ziploc, spray, zip shut, tumble by hand for bit, then dump them out and let dry for a minute or two.
I also will have some Imperial wax and tap a finger on it every now and them.
Dipping one now and then into Imperial case neck lube graphite will ease lifting the press handle and slow case lengthening

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50- 100 cases can be cleaned quickly with paper towels.


Lubing ? Cut some 3 X 3 inch flannel patches 6-8 or use GI patches if you have some. Apply a goodly amount of lube to patches and toss them into a big covered bowl or a shoe box with your brass and shake the heck out of them for a minute or two.


Press handle will almost fall down and your fingers are clean as a whistle.


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I use bushing neck dies and graphite......Redding sells a little container with graphite and small ceramic bb's to keep it mixed up.
Just dip the neck in as you go.
Every 5-6 reloads I FL size...for that I rub a little Imperial wax on the body and dip the neck in graphite as I go.
Wipe the cases off with a rag when you're done.

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Originally Posted by Blacktail53
[ type S collet die.


I think you mean this.

https://www.redding-reloading.com/online-catalog/118-type-s-bushing-dies

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Originally Posted by Blacktail53
I’m in the market for a set of dies for my .223.
I’ve been loading, single stage RCBS, since the mid 60’s and the process I loath is lubing cases....

Does anyone make a carbide or other die that eliminates the lubing process?
I know the Lee Pro 1000 progressive press apparently works around that issue, some how.

I see Hornady has a titanium nitrate die for pistols..... anything out there I’m missing?
Thanks, in advance 👍


I don't know of a carbide die for .223. I lube my .223 cases with the RCBS glycerin lube. I put 200 cases in a plastic gallon bag and put in a small amount of glycerin lube. I then stir the bag around to spread the lube. If I have time I do it 24 hours before I resize and the lube will creep over the brass that didn't get lube placed on it. If I don't have 24 hours it takes a little more lube but I stir the brass around in the bag to get it all covered.

I stopped using the pad years ago and started using the plastic gallon bag. I even keep the bag since it has some lube in it for the next time I want to resize some brass. I put the bag in a plastic jar that is air tight. After resizing the brass I spray it with some window cleaner in a plastic coffee can and rinse it in hot water about 5 minutes later. This cleans up the brass nicely. Separate out the brass from the water and let it dry. I have an old metal coffee can and I put the can on a small oil heater and let it dry over night. In the summer I put the brass in a plastic coffee can and let it set outside in the sun.

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Originally Posted by kwg020


I don't know of a carbide die for .223. I lube my .223 cases with the RCBS glycerin lube. I put 200 cases in a plastic gallon bag and put in a small amount of glycerin lube. I then stir the bag around to spread the lube. If I have time I do it 24 hours before I resize and the lube will creep over the brass that didn't get lube placed on it. If I don't have 24 hours it takes a little more lube but I stir the brass around in the bag to get it all covered.

I stopped using the pad years ago and started using the plastic gallon bag. I even keep the bag since it has some lube in it for the next time I want to resize some brass. I put the bag in a plastic jar that is air tight. After resizing the brass I spray it with some window cleaner in a plastic coffee can and rinse it in hot water about 5 minutes later. This cleans up the brass nicely. Separate out the brass from the water and let it dry. I have an old metal coffee can and I put the can on a small oil heater and let it dry over night. In the summer I put the brass in a plastic coffee can and let it set outside in the sun.



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