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I'm wanting a suppressor for my .300 WM and 300 Whisper (BLK).
Lots of options. Some units are sealed, some are take down. Some are quieter than others.
I would like a bayonet quick attachment for both guns. My .300 WM has a 24" barrel, quick attach would help handling that long a gun. I'd attach when I got where I was going. The WM has a brake, which I don't like. This would help cutting down noise.
I wonder if they'll ever get that hearing protection bill passed and signed into law?
Suggestions.
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Go direct thread... it’s simple, and you don’t have to buy a mount for every gun you want to use the can on.
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OK.
What would be your choice for what I'm wanting to do?
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I like a quick attach setup, and sometimes carry the suppressor separately in the woods (acknowledging that I might end up taking a shot without it) for easier carrying. I machine my own QD mounts though, so i don't have a suggestion for a specific brand, sorry.
For high power centerfire rifle suppressors, just get a sealed can, you don't need to strip it down to clean it. For a .22 or 9mm can, the ability to clean it is more important.
Don't bother waiting for the hearing protection act, it's dead Jim, not gonna happen in the foreseeable future. If you want a suppressor, get the paperwork started now; waiting for something to change only means waiting more.
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Whats your budget? What is your criteria? Weight, cost, length, noise suppression?
I would also do direct thread, much simpler. You will eventually own more than one can anyway.
I have a Silencerco Harvester, and I like it just fine for what it is. I will be ordering a TBAC Ultra 5 in January. Twice the price, half the size.
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Two different cans. Take down. The physical requirements for function are such that a can for the BO will not work on the .300 and the latter will be unwieldy on the BO.
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Different strokes.....but I disagree. I dont care for Takedown cans, and no one make a can regarded with any seriousness in a takedown model.
Something like the Silencerco Omega would be just fine on a 300BO and a 300WM. One could even take the brake off for the 300, and on for the Magnum. There are definitely other options, like the TBAC Ultra 9 and 7 that are more than capable of working well on both rifles.
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OK.
What would be your choice for what I'm wanting to do?
DF I wanted one I could use on everything from a .300 RUM to a .223..... I ended up with the Suppressed Armament Systems TiArbiter in direct thread (5/8x24). I use it on everything.... even a occasional rim fire round.
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I've been running a SilencerCo Harvester and Omega 300. The Omega has some versatility in that it can be setup in a direct thread configuration as well as QD depending on what adapter is used. I'm using both in direct thread (5/8"-24) but an ASR muzzle brake/QD is in hand for the Omega if I get an itch to go that route.
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That rifle will be long with a 24” barrel. I bought a cheap Savage Hog Hunter to use with my suppressor. It has a 20” barrel, with can it’s long as hell.
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Two different cans. Take down. The physical requirements for function are such that a can for the BO will not work on the .300 and the latter will be unwieldy on the BO. I know you shoot some low velocity cast bullet stuff suppressed, but neither of your points in that comment are accurate for modern suppressors with high velocity centerfire ammo. If DF isn't going to shoot primarily cast bullet subsonics through that suppressor, there's no good reason to use a user-serviceable suppressor. Occasional use of those kind of loads tends to get cleaned out by firing high pressure rounds in the same can. As for the size thing - great theory, that doesn't hold up in reality. Most modern centerfire 30 cal cans are rated for 300 WM anyway, and a 300 Blk is still quieter in those than a small 300 Blk specific can anyway. If he wants a small can, something like a TBAC Ultra 7 (or maybe even Ultra 5) does a great job for both cartridges.
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Direct thread.
Silencerco Omega or TBAC Ultra 7.
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Best way to prevent ear damage is to not make noise!
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Thanks, guys. Lots of good info. I'm thinking about getting a threaded Ruger American in 300 BLK. One has the round clip, the newer one uses an AR mag. There has been some concern on how sturdy the AR mag is held in that model. Don't know. Others have suggested that the round clip may not feed as well as an AR mag. Don't know. You can get short AR mags. I have a J. D. Jones SSK upper in .300 Whisper with SSK can on a Colt lower. It's a big, heavy SS can and when in place, the gun is pretty heavy. I was looking for something lighter and handier. I also have an Ed Brown Damara in .300 WM.. It's a great rifle, but Ed supplied all his light weight magnums with a brake, said they shoot better. Well, the brake is really noisy. I was thinking a can could cut down the noise and maybe the recoil to some degree. The brake does reduce recoil to the extent I don't shoot it without. I'm thinking a can would make this gun more user friendly, especially hunting with a guide or party. That was my reasoning on quick on and off. But, it doesn't take long to screw on a can. I have one that fits three .22's, two pistols and a 10-22. So, I'm doing research on which can would work in both applications. I don't think I'll shoot the .300 WM as much as the BLK. DF
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Not sure how you beat the TB stuff, I'd for sure look at them.
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Best way to prevent ear damage is to not make noise! Not an option... DF
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I have been very happy with the Thunderbeast Ultras 5/7/9.
I love the 5 incher for being so light and compact but have not used it on anything bigger than .308 or 6.5CM.
I am using the TB muzzle break and the POI is really consistent when installing the cans.
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Go direct thread... it’s simple, and you don’t have to buy a mount for every gun you want to use the can on.
^^^^^ This... I have both Thunderbeast and Silencerco suppressors but I always pick the Thunderbeast first... The Ultra 7 is my favorite...
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DF, Check out this article published last week from the Firearm Blog, talking about Dead Air Armament. I found it quite interesting. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/11/28/dead-air-sandman-s-10000-rounds-later/Look into the Nomad 30 also, looks really good for what you want. I run a Silencerco Omega and use the ASR QD mount/brake on my rifles. There is no way I would go with a takedown model shooting a 300 win mag, too much pressure.
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Sorta a quandary, getting one that’s ideal for a 300 BLK and 300 WM suitable.
A compromise no doubt. Probably will need overkill for BLK to accommodate WM.
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