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I have ordered my second copy, I just shoot the thing better than a glock.
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My experience with my original P365 hasn’t changed from prior posts. I haven’t had any malfunctions and it is still my EDC now.
We now have 3 P-365 in the family, the last 2 with all the improvement mods that Sig has introduced. Specifically the new cone face strikers, which replaced the flat shoulder original Gen 1 version.
I’m looking for specific information from those who have replaced the original Gen 1 factory striker with the LightningStrike striker part. I am not looking to re-ignite the metallurgical or manufacturing methodology debates.
Simply put : 1) Do you have personal experience with the LightningStrike striker? If so, 2) How many rounds of live ammunition have you fired with the LS striker? 3) Do you use the LS striker in dry fire practice? If so, how many dry fire cycles do you estimate you’ve done? 4) Have you experienced a broken LS Striker since replacement of the factory original striker in your personal Sig P-365?
Thanks.
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My first P365 has 900 rounds through it, about 400 with the LS striker. I have had no problems with either striker.
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I picked up a P365 on Friday and ran 100 flawless round through it yesterday. I'll put another 100-150 rounds through it and then start carrying it. Amazing little pistol that will fit in the same holster as my G42, but will hold 12+1 rounds of 9mm +p.
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I was surprised that I shot the P365 better than my Glock 42 and 43 and tied, or bettered, my Glock 26 on my first range visit with the 365. I had a hard time believing it. My Sig only has about 400 rounds through it. I had one malfunction the first range visit, shooting weak hand. The last round in the magazine only got about half way into the chamber. I pulled the round out, loaded it into an empty magazine, locked the slide back, and fed it back into the gun by tripping the slide release. The round did not chamber fully, and it tied up the gun. After managing to get the round out of the chamber, I learned that the mouth of the case had been pushed back in one spot, which probably made the round out-of-spec. (ETA: It was factory Winchester White Box.) I had more malfunctions than that out of my Glock 43 right out of the box.
The P365 easily fits into an IWB holster that I have for a Glock 43, a Safariland ALS holster for a Glock 42/43, and it also fits in an Alabama pocket holster for a Glock 42.
The primer drag marks on my October build P365 are still pretty bad with the Winchester White Box 115, Speer standard pressure 124 Gold Dots, and Buffalo Bore 147 +P hard cast Outdoorsman that I have shot through it. My 124 grain hand loads are not as bad on the primers.
As for the original question, Glock 26 versus Sig P365, I think it depends on the mission. The Glock 26 is a tank, and it could meet my criteria for one gun for all purposes. The 26 weighs about 4 ounces more than the 365 loaded and is wider than the 365, but it handles any kind of ammo without drama and can be neglected and abused and expected to work. I carry a 26 in the woods loaded with Buffalo Bore +P hard cast. I do not see the Sig P365 standing up to the abuse that a 26 could take. The sides of the 365 grip are extremely thin to the point where I think I could crack one side just by thumb and index finger pressure if there is no magazine in the gun. I question whether a couple of nights in extreme sub-zero temperatures (a possibility where I hang) could render the 365 plastic brittle. I also think that the long Sig rails, like the rails on traditional Sigs, call for more liberal lubrication than Glocks. But, for carrying in all but the worst conditions, with a properly lubricated gun, I think that a properly vetted P365 is easier to carry and may not take as much practice to stay in condition as the 26.
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...and the 26 can take 30 round happy sticks for “shelter in place”
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...and the 26 can take 30 round happy sticks for “shelter in place” 32 round.
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...and the 26 can take 30 round happy sticks for “shelter in place” 32 round. 32 rounds if they're ProMags. 33 if it's a Glock mag.
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...and the 26 can take 30 round happy sticks for “shelter in place” 32 round. 32 rounds if they're ProMags. 33 if it's a Glock mag. Yep. I meant 33.
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Well, for my purposes of carrying it in an office atmosphere, where customers don't have a clue that it's there, the Sig P365 has been a great asset. It's a tool, not the only tool in the box, but a tool just the same.
I use different tools, dependent upon my environment. In the Mountains, I usually take an S&W Mountain Gun in .45 Colt. Traveling, or fishing in Urban areas like Detroit River, Saginaw River, G19 with a S&W 38 BUG.
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oddly I feel more confident in my abilities with the P365 than my glock 19. I have the 12 round magazine for it. At some point any pistol is not enough, yesterday near the town I live in a "youth" had a big M&P stuck in his sweat pants going into the pizza place, he did not see me watch him put his jacket on over it, too young to have a CCW permit and seemingly too young to be driving the $80,000 BMW he was driving. I wonder what his line of business was? Sadly this is getting more and more common, I feel more confident with a pistol I can make hits with than a pistol that has more misses in it. Why you could just move to LA with that 33 round magazine!
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I do not see the Sig P365 standing up to the abuse that a 26 could take. The sides of the 365 grip are extremely thin to the point where I think I could crack one side just by thumb and index finger pressure if there is no magazine in the gun. I question whether a couple of nights in extreme sub-zero temperatures (a possibility where I hang) could render the 365 plastic brittle. I also think that the long Sig rails, like the rails on traditional Sigs, call for more liberal lubrication than Glocks. But, for carrying in all but the worst conditions, with a properly lubricated gun, I think that a properly vetted P365 is easier to carry and may not take as much practice to stay in condition as the 26.
Update. I had a floor plate crack on a P365 magazine today after being dropped for about the 25th time on the same concrete floor that untold number of Glock magazines have repeatedly fallen upon for the last 7 years without sustaining any damage. The gun does continue to function and shoot well at about 950 rounds. I am going to have to order a pile of magazine floorplates, though.
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Why are you intentionally dropping magazines on a concrete floor? Just don't care, or trying to find out if they'll break?
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Why are you intentionally dropping magazines on a concrete floor? Just don't care, or trying to find out if they'll break? Ever heard of a speed reload or training like you fight? You going to hang onto empty mags?
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Why are you intentionally dropping magazines on a concrete floor? Just don't care, or trying to find out if they'll break? Because that is what the floor of the indoor range is made of. If I had been outside, it would have been snow and gravel and ice today.
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Realism in training is a great idea, but put some kind of a Matt down so you don’t damage magazines.
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I am not carrying a mat to the range. I cannot recall an issue of this nature with any carry handgun magazines that I have used in the last 30 years. I have tossed some PMag rifle magazines.
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Those P365 mags are pushing mag engineering to the limit to fit so many in that small a mag. I guess it’s not surprising they’re a bit on the delicate side.
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