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And how many tens of thousands of Americans dies each year, because of lack of healthcare, get rejected for life saving treatments due to insurance, don´t go to the doctor soon enough or can't afford their medications?

35-45.000 Americans each year...


jaguartx, I think you swore the Hypocritical oath.. instead of the Hippocratic oath.

They need you overseas much more than we need you. If it's so God-awful here...move.

So, govt run healtcare is the answer everywhere. Ha. And the Post Office and VA and Detroit are shining examples.

And that is not measuring the hundreds of thousands Americas that each year files for medical bankruptcy... then end their own lives!

Those numbers are most likely in the thousands as well!

The 18 year War in Afghan and Iraq has cost 6 $Trillion as of now.. 3000 dead in the towers and few thousands maimed and killed overseas. 18 YEARS!



But, saving 40-50.000 Americans each year, while saving America 1 $Trillion every single year??? Nah... not interested.

The ACA is the most corrupt abomination ever foisted on the country and the Democrats own it. It was a collective clusterphuk that gave so little to so few while stealing so much from so many. It deserves a quick merciful death.

I hear all this stuff about how great Euro medicine is.

But, why do those folks come here for surgery.

When I had rotator cuff surg in New Orleans, a German othro surgeon flew to NO for his shoulder surgery, brought his ortho resident daughter to observe the surgeries my doctor performed that day. He's nationally and internationally known, lectures all over the world.

Now, if that German ortho surgeon thought he could get this quality of care in Germany, don't think he'd have gone to the trouble and expsnse to fly to New Orleans.

We have the VAH and are trying to fix it. If you like the old VA, you'll love socialized, govt run medicne. I don't know if it can really be fixed.

Excuse me while I puke.

DF

NoMan STILL a fugking idiot!!! Big surprise.

You have no clue what you speak of.

I used to see poor patients from 200 miles away, dx glaucoma, put them on meds and recheck them in 2 weeks, do an optic nerve laser scan, visual field to evaluate vision loss and corneal thickness and if the meds were working.

Now the govt wants me to find the problem, send pt home and rechk in two wedks and do an ootic nerve scan, send pt home and rechk in 2 weeks for a vision field test, send home (200 miles away) and rechk in 2 weeks for corneal exam ($16 charge) and send home and rechk in 2 wks and tell pt the dx and put pt on meds and rechk in 2 wks to see if meds are working.
5 trips instead of 2. The total pt charges are the same but at a $80 cost to the clinic for each exam the dr makes lesd from the testing and dx and tc and rechk than what he is paid by mcare you dumbass.


But you keep telling me how it really is, you stupid lying pos.

I get paid $19 by mcare for a freaking $200 test on a $30,000 instrument a tech has to administer. The renumeration isnt worth the time the tech spends doing the testing.

And why do hundreds of thousands of Americans travel each year to other countries to have surgeries performed?

Go overseas you fughking dumbass.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-care

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallyp...ion-while-waiting-for-medical-treatment/

Blame the Republicans... they put what 70+ amendments into the bill that made everything worse and less effective. Then blame the Republicans that would not implement it in their states. Then blame the Republicans that for 7 years tried to kill it, defund it, criticize it whenever they could. Then blame the Republicans that for 7 years did not have a single plan of how to fix the system after they voted to kill it.. Then blame the Republicans that STILL HAVE NO PLAN!


The Dems should just have shoved it through without a single Republican amendment. THEN YOU COULD COMPLAIN ABOUT THE DEMS.... now its the Republicans mess...

Idiot

1.4 Million Americans are leaving for treatments each year... and those are just the ones that can afford it.
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/...l-Go-Abroad-Medical-Care-Year-Should-You

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/63-00...ent-last-year-fraser-institute-1.3486635

You blame the Rs for lower taxes, higher employment, less NK missiles fired, less unemployment claims, repatrioting jobs from NAFTA, ....

You are truly too stupid to argue with.

And... STILL NO PLAN FOR THE HEALTCARE OF 325 MILLION AMERICANS... Even after 8 years of trying to kill their own best plan, Romney Care.

Republicans.. waisting 1 $Trillion and killing 50.000 Americans each year, because of principal.... (No actually its lobbyist money )

Don't forget the tax cut that adds $1.5 trillion to the debt, courtesy of the Republicans bought and paid for by the Koch brothers, et al. Party of Fiscal Responsibilty right there.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresa...he-tax-cut-10-months-later/#152587ec26bb

You sack of horse [bleep]...I would have died in most European countries and Canada before my cancer got treated. Here with pre-Obamacare insurance I was on the table and under a daVinci machine's knives less than a week after I was diagnosed. I hope you move somewhere with their "superior" system and develop cancer. You'll learn a hard lesson, and we'll be rid of you.

It's win-win...

Of course the MORON does, he's a socialist, aka transfer of wealth from those who earn it to those who don't but feel entitled to it..