They'll find a way to weasel it into something else, not take a firm stand. Like Roberts did with Obamacare.
Globalists and socialists seem to find common ground, and at our expense. We pay their tab. Their interest is always over that of the people, but of course, in the name of the people.
Big ole game. We are expected to remain spectators, grin and like it. The Tea Party and now Trump are saying, not so fast. We WILL be heard... And we DON'T like it..
So you believe the government bureaucracy could provide superior care and more efficiently than the private sector.LOL
Since all other 1st world nations does it, and have better outcomes then the US system. Yes. They also save 6-7% of their GDP compared to the US system.
Odd government run healthcare is universally hated in those "1st world nations"! Why do you think the government has any constitutional role in healthcare anyway?
So you believe the government bureaucracy could provide superior care and more efficiently than the private sector.LOL
Since all other 1st world nations does it, and have better outcomes then the US system. Yes. They also save 6-7% of their GDP compared to the US system.
Odd government run healthcare is universally hated in those "1st world nations"! Why do you think the government has any constitutional role in healthcare anyway?
Better outcome? Is this documented or a talking point?
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So you believe the government bureaucracy could provide superior care and more efficiently than the private sector.LOL
Of course the MORON does, he's a socialist, aka transfer of wealth from those who earn it to those who don't but feel entitled to it..
QFT, but what is really sad is that he represents about half of today's America and 70+% of American youth.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
You blame the Rs for lower taxes, higher employment, less NK missiles fired, less unemployment claims, repatrioting jobs from NAFTA, ....
You are truly too stupid to argue with.
And... STILL NO PLAN FOR THE HEALTCARE OF 325 MILLION AMERICANS... Even after 8 years of trying to kill their own best plan, Romney Care.
Republicans.. waisting 1 $Trillion and killing 50.000 Americans each year, because of principal.... (No actually its lobbyist money )
No plan are you sure about that? If the ACA is so great why is the cheapest plan $800. a month and $6000. for a deductible? I do think you may just be a blithering idiot!
You blame the Rs for lower taxes, higher employment, less NK missiles fired, less unemployment claims, repatrioting jobs from NAFTA, ....
You are truly too stupid to argue with.
And... STILL NO PLAN FOR THE HEALTCARE OF 325 MILLION AMERICANS... Even after 8 years of trying to kill their own best plan, Romney Care.
Republicans.. waisting 1 $Trillion and killing 50.000 Americans each year, because of principal.... (No actually its lobbyist money )
No plan are you sure about that? If the ACA is so great why is the cheapest plan $800. a month and $6000. for a deductible? I do think you may just be a blithering idiot!
Because the Republicans ruined it...
Blame the Republicans... they put what 70+ amendments into the bill that made everything worse and less effective. Then blame the Republicans that would not implement it in their states. Then blame the Republicans that for 7 years tried to kill it, defund it, criticize it whenever they could. Then blame the Republicans that for 7 years did not have a single plan of how to fix the system after they voted to kill it.. Then blame the Republicans that STILL HAVE NO PLAN!
The Dems should just have shoved it through without a single Republican amendment. THEN YOU COULD COMPLAIN ABOUT THE DEMS.... now its the Republicans mess...
So you believe the government bureaucracy could provide superior care and more efficiently than the private sector.LOL
Since all other 1st world nations does it, and have better outcomes then the US system. Yes. They also save 6-7% of their GDP compared to the US system.
Odd government run healthcare is universally hated in those "1st world nations"! Why do you think the government has any constitutional role in healthcare anyway?
Hahaha... get out of Texas will you. People from other 1st world Nations LOVE their healthcare systems! They cover everybody for any eventuality for close to 1/2 the cost compared to the US system. A system that leaves tens of thousands dead each year for easily preventable diseases and bankrupts hundreds of thousands of Americans each year.. As well as waisting 7% of the US GDP each year...
I see the HUGE economical benefits of having a governmental run healthcare. Atleast 1 $ Trillion saved each year in waste. 50.000 fewer dead Americans each year NO medical bankruptcy anymore. Lower costs of drugs for everybody. People less dependent on their employer for health insurance. Increased economical benefits from people starting their own companies without having to worry for their or their families health. Increased number of people that goes to a doctor to catch easily preventable diseases long before they become chronic or fatal.
The sad part about your idiotic, delusional and completely absurd post is that you probably have children that lived...
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The sad part about your idiotic, delusional and completely absurd post is that you probably have children that lived...
More Truth.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
[ Then blame the Republicans that STILL HAVE NO PLAN!
And you're missing the point (on purpose, of course) that the freaking gov't should STAY THE HELL OUTTA healthcare - PERIOD!!
But nooooo, you freaking libbies just GOTTA have gov't into every freaking thing so as to CONTROL every freaking thing.....because ya just LOVE LOVE LOVE all that freaking socialism...
Ya dickwad.... EFF you and every other freaking socialist in this country..
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I am trying to learn more on this and read both sides of this argument with an open mind and without labels or name calling.
What I come away with ....in simplest terms... is that for government to run health care means an added cost of associated red tape and layers of beaurocrats, delays, and approvals. Somethign that has already hamstrung the industry and effected inusrance costs. It also seems people use the term health care but are really speaking of health insurance. Seems rather convenient and disingenuous.
My main fear is that the government, even with best intentions, will end up doing to health care what they did to the home lending industry. Make feel good decisions with no basis in math\reality and when the industry collapses through their meddling, come in to say 'we' have to run it since private industry can't.
The other cost not mentioned is the caring for non-citizens who don't pay taxes nor insurance. Fair question- what is that cost yearly?
Wouldn't single payer invite more of this- and if so, was that the plan all along?
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I am trying to learn more on this and read both sides of this argument with an open mind and without labels or name calling.
What I come away with ....in simplest terms... is that for government to run health care means an added cost of associated red tape and layers of beaurocrats, delays, and approvals. Somethign that has already hamstrung the industry and effected inusrance costs. It also seems people use the term health care but are really speaking of health insurance. Seems rather convenient and disingenuous.
My main fear is that the government, even with best intentions, will end up doing to health care what they did to the home lending industry. Make feel good decisions with no basis in math\reality and when the industry collapses through their meddling, come in to say 'we' have to run it since private industry can't.
The other cost not mentioned is the caring for non-citizens who don't pay taxes nor insurance. Fair question- what is that cost yearly?
Wouldn't single payer invite more of this- and if so, was that the plan all along?
It will probably end up with Medicare for all... It polls in the 65-70%. Most Americans are terrified of the current system... and most younger people, who has access to more information and understands it, compared to the old farts on this forum, knows that all other 1st world nation has their own "Medicare for all", and it works MUCH better then the current US system, and way way better then any Republican plan. Which is NO PLAN.
If the US spends 18% of GDP on healthcare now, while others pay 9-11%... I dont see how the government could ruin it any more. Republicans will try though... Just pick one of the 30+ different Government run healthcare plans around the world and implement it, OR just increase Medicare to cover all Americans. Cost will plummet... and coverage will increase.
Other nations can't AFFORD TO WASTE 7% of their GPD, like the US does, so all parties work together to keep their National Healthcare systems, because its cheaper AND BETTER.
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