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All that money spent on equip, not a thing to show for it. Sad.
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Alpha sucks. Those flash holes look like Woody Woodpecker punched them
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Alpha sucks. Those flash holes look like Woody Woodpecker punched them LOVE the "enthusiasm" from the side lines. HINT! Alpha doesn't make BR or Grendel brass. Re-Hint. LAUGHING!...............
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And they but a 1:7 on their short box .223 and go from a 1:7 in their 22-250 to a 1:8?? Genius.. Yes, that was a strange decision. Barrett changed the 22-250 to a twist that compromises bc on the heavies, yet twists the 223 for heavies but doesn't chamber it in an action with a long enough mag box to use them. I'd like to hear their justification. I'm also curious about the reasoning behind a micro action to begin with....the Fieldcraft is already a tiny action. Build the normal short action with 223 feed rails and a small bolt face, slap in a 2.5" mag box with a spacer, maybe move the bolt stop forward a skosh. Voila, Fieldcraft 223. Works for the guys wanting factory ammo, works for the guys wanting to shoot longer rounds. But I suppose that would be harder to market than a new micro rifle. While we're talking about Fieldcraft twists: What was the point in a 1 in 9 for the 25-06, which doesn't have a readily available commercial bullet that will be able to take advantage of the faster twist, yet they chamber the 270 in 1 in 10 barrels, with the 170 eld on the shelf?
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I hope they go 2.5 on the micro mag box. That'll give that action some workable options in other chamberings. The full range of grendel's, a 7 twist 6x47 for 105's, and a blackout with room would all be fun. I'd pass on a 6.8, I've no idea how the 6.8 is still hanging on and the military is still talking about a 6.8 of some kind when much superior ballistics are easily found just a little ways on either side.
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The 6.8 actually has more case capacity than the Grendel. It's just handicapped by mag length. It would benefit even more than the Grendel from a longer mag box & action.
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The 6.8 would benefit more by being necked down to 6.5 or up to 7mm than anything.
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.....I cannot remember the exact dimension off the top of my head so please don't burn me down if this is not accurate but, I believe it is .060" over SAAMI max. .......
No plans to burn you down. I appreciate your input. I sure hope you're wrong though. Lots of rifles will shoot lots of bullets with jump. A short mag box just limits options. Longer mag box (and action port/bolt stop to match), even if the barrel has a short throat, is no limit at all.
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Fieldcraft micro-action mag box internal length is 2.436" (SAAMI max + .176")
Sorry my number in earlier post was way off.
Keep in mind, just because you can fit a 2.43" OAL cartridge into the magazine does not mean your selected projectile will not slam into the throat way before that length.
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That's very good news! I'll go out on a limb and postulate that an 88 grain ELD won't slam into the throat before that length
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Alpha sucks. Those flash holes look like Woody Woodpecker punched them PLEASE get Big Stick going on about flash holes and primer pockets again. That was classic! 😂
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I'm also curious about the reasoning behind a micro action to begin with....the Fieldcraft is already a tiny action. Build the normal short action with 223 feed rails and a small bolt face, slap in a 2.5" mag box with a spacer, maybe move the bolt stop forward a skosh. Voila, Fieldcraft 223. Works for the guys wanting factory ammo, works for the guys wanting to shoot longer rounds.
Barrett needs to listen to the above. R
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I'm also curious about the reasoning behind a micro action to begin with....the Fieldcraft is already a tiny action. Build the normal short action with 223 feed rails and a small bolt face, slap in a 2.5" mag box with a spacer, maybe move the bolt stop forward a skosh. Voila, Fieldcraft 223. Works for the guys wanting factory ammo, works for the guys wanting to shoot longer rounds.
Barrett needs to listen to the above. R Barrett is listening and has it covered. The micro action has a 2.436" internal mag dimension. The action is the same diameter as the current short and long so same mounts work, it is only shorter. The whole deal with FC is optimizing the size of the components around the chambered cartridge. No extra bulk.
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Might work, I load 75 amaxes at 2.435 in my 700 223 ai. It's an 8 twist 3 groove pac-nor faux Ti. I've had it about 10 years and it still likes the same load length it started with. I shot a coyote with it the other day.
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