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Don't forget the 20moa base.
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What about a VX-3i 3.5-10? Since he is using a Barska now anything would be an upgrade. I would think that he would be awed by the view through the VX-3i 3.5-10. Take him to a store and let him look through it and if he likes it with a little shopping one can be found for under the $400 budget, and maybe with enough money left over to buy him a decent set of rings. drover That was a possibility but I wonder if a Meopta won't have just as good of a view and perhaps hold up slightly better,if he wants a set and forget scope. I had said scope and the first time I looked at it I was cured of my Z3 habit
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Mil reticles and turrets are surely the way to go in a 3-15x scope. He'll be slinging 1000 yard shots at deer after only half a box of Corelokts at the dump shooting paint cans at 53 yards. Neither of us are redneck snipers. The attraction of the SWFA is the durability more than anything.
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Get the Meopta from Doug and be done with it.
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Then there's mounts. I think he has some of those air gun company mounts on it now,..forget the name.
Daisy? Ha,Ha.. No,something ultra cheap in 30mm rings.I just remember the air gun guys use them mostly. I'll try to talk him into a decent rail and likely give him a good set of rings. NCSTAR
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It’s pretty hard to beat Meopta for quality and value. If you ever need it, they’ve got top notch CS.
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Just my take.....
VX3i for under 300.00 bucks on Ebay and use the rest of the money for beer.
Why not just buy a fake leupold and buy a keg and invite all your friends? Damn near anything would be better than a barska..
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Just my take.....
VX3i for under 300.00 bucks on Ebay and use the rest of the money for beer.
Why not just buy a fake leupold and buy a keg and invite all your friends? Damn near anything would be better than a barska.. That is a good point...
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There is a 4-12X leupold in the classifieds, it’s mine, and well within your budget.
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Used SWFA 3-9’s can be had for just a bit more than $400, less than most of the 3-15’s I’ve seen. And no side focus to mess with, etc.
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I just bought a Burris Veracity 3X15X50 for $699 and got a free FFII 4.5X14X40 free. Buy the Veracity and sell the other Burris. For me it will be a great 22LR scope as it has side focus so I'm going to keep it. It was on Ebay
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The gentleman in question seems to know little about optics, hence the original use of Barska, why suggest the Super Sniper and it reticle? He would be better served with a set and forget scope of standard reticle. There is no better scope for $400 than the Meopta deal Doug is offering right now. GreggH
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The gentleman in question seems to know little about optics, hence the original use of Barska, why suggest the Super Sniper and it reticle? He would be better served with a set and forget scope of standard reticle. There is no better scope for $400 than the Meopta deal Doug is offering right now. GreggH Yup.
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The Meopta/Cabelas/Zeiss old Conquest are at least the equal of the VX3 glass with the bonus of constant eye relief through the power range. The only thing the Leupold has over the Meopta is weight and slightly more compact dimensions. I would try to find one in the 3-9x40 instead of the 3-5-10 or 3-9x42 etc. They have a little longer eye relief. [/quote] I second the 3-9x40 Meopro. I think the Meopro 3.5-10x44/VX3i are great choices as well I was so impressed by the value of the 3-9x40 Zeiss Conquests I purchased 5 of them 2 for family members everybody I know likes that scope. It is they Meopta Meopro with different knobs. Good luck and shot straight all
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You can get a Leupold VX III 4.5 x 14 CDS for right at 400.00
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Re read the opening post, if he is not shooting over 300 yards a Weaver Gramd Slam 2-8x36 can be found on sale right now for >$200. Spend the rest on a good set of mounts, and a good supply of ammunition...and beer. Would be a slick little rig combined with that Mossberg.
Just say no to oversized optics.
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I love the weight and dimensions of the Leupold VX 3. The Ziess Conquest MC/ meopro line are bulky and that eyepiece is just butt ugly. HOWEVER, the glass quality is not even close IMO. That's why I sold my Leupolds and now have three Ziess Conquest MC and a Meopro.
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A friend wants me to help him buy"the best scope he has ever bought." His budget is about $400. His current scope is a Barska 4-12X56. Weight won't matter and he won't be shooting over 300 yards.
I'm a little nervous about making a recommendation because he is expecting a lot. I doubt he has ever spent over $100 for a scope and he is expecting a lot.
Right now I'm thinking Meopta 3-9X50. Any better suggestions? What would you buy for yourself at that budget number? Its obvious he trusts your judgment and is looking for you to lead him to a good scope. I suspect anything you recommend will be the best he's ever had.
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SWFA,,
Not knowing the conditions, terrain, style of hunting he does it is hard to recommend a 6x vs 10X. That said, if he can swing a 3-15 he would be very well set.
I would take a used 3-15 SWFA, FFP or FFP before a new Leupold vx3,2,1 .
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