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No agenda other than truth. It certainly would be interesting to hear from someone who went through this in very recent times though wouldn't it?
The “truth” is that there can be many different ways and varying costs toward obtaining citizenship and there are many possibilities and preclusions involved with dual citizenships being maintained. There’s more truths on this subject but those just about cover it. Each man has but one life to live. The events that occur cannot be changed by another who chooses to challenge. Being a writer, you omitted the “taking literary license” part. Grins
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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Fuggin foreigners! All my ancestors have been Americans - since they immigrated here.
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!" --- Kid Rock 2022
Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?
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Muslin trash in Michigan is selling them, ask him.
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You earned that pension. Thank you for your service.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Grandpa:the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Dad:son you have 2 choices for supper eat or don't eat.
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Campfire Kahuna
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15 or 20 years ago, my brother had a friend who met a girl from the Philippines online. He went over there and married her. He then spent about $25k getting her a visa to immigrate to the US. She got off the plane with her visa in one hand and divorce papers in the other. It cost him another $25k to get rid of her. Yes, she came in legally, in a manner of speaking. I don't know what the visa money was spent for, just that he paid it.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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Campfire Kahuna
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In the late fifties, when my parents and of course me had no idea of the looming holocaust about to descend on us, an American Aircraft Carrier (USS FDR CV 42) pulled into Havana harbor and my dad took me to see it. From that day, I knew what I wanted to do. Who knew. Yeah, maybe I paid my dues, but now I do get a very nice pension, courtesy of the US taxpayer... It's the little things that make us who we are, If your dad had not taken you to see that carrier......Who knows. What year did your Pa fire that chevy up and come over here? Enjoy that pension, you've earned it.
Paul
"I'd rather see a sermon than hear a sermon".... D.A.D.
Trump Won!, Sandmann Won!, Rittenhouse Won!, Suck it Liberal Fuuktards.
molɔ̀ːn labé skýla
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Be careful using that word. You need to write it like this, holocaust™
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In the late fifties, when my parents and of course me had no idea of the looming holocaust about to descend on us, an American Aircraft Carrier (USS FDR CV 42) pulled into Havana harbor and my dad took me to see it. From that day, I knew what I wanted to do. Who knew. Yeah, maybe I paid my dues, but now I do get a very nice pension, courtesy of the US taxpayer... It's the little things that make us who we are, If your dad had not taken you to see that carrier......Who knows. What year did your Pa fire that chevy up and come over here? Enjoy that pension, you've earned it. 21 August, 1960. I turned six that September.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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United States Oath of Allegiance
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
You and your former nation can think what you like but America and Americans take that Oath seriously and in any circumstance you will be judged by it.
Last heard it the week before Thanksgiving when my wife took it, all up cost was about $2K, I did the paperwork.
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That's how I remember it. And I know what renounce means.
MOLON LABE
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That's how I remember it. And I know what renounce means. Agree but it doesn’t mean giving up your previous passport or citizenship of another country.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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I see we have a few "Legal" immigrants on the fire, pretty cool really. I'm glad you Gals and Guys made it, I hate to say it but you're probably more proud of becoming an American than a lot of Americans are being born an American. My wife's best friend is a Russian immigrant and And damn proud to be an American. Sometimes when she gets a little tipsy she'll forget her english and start talking Russian and she'll also get a little dyslexic at times with American sayings, she'll look at you all serious and say fuqk a mother! The gal is a lot of fun. She is a hell of an artist as well. Link.Illegal immigrants come over here and have no intention of being a citizen or of being an American just coming here illegally signifies that fact. Illegal immigrants can piss off.
Paul
"I'd rather see a sermon than hear a sermon".... D.A.D.
Trump Won!, Sandmann Won!, Rittenhouse Won!, Suck it Liberal Fuuktards.
molɔ̀ːn labé skýla
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I have a friend, fellow scoutmaster, who was born and raised in Canada, served as Lt. Commander in the Canadian Navy. He is a naturalized citizen of the U.S. He told me it took ten years and $20,000 to become naturalization.
Wind in my hair, Sun on my face, I gazed at the wide open spaces, And I was at home.
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Then they should stay home. When did your ancestors come here and where did they come from? Mine came over on the Mayflower and killed Indians. You could be pretty well inbred by now. Only 28 females were on board. Even if generations are 40 years in your family, that's 10 generations. You ought to have 512 grandmas at the 10th generation.
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Somewhere in the line; theres probably some squaw blood. Back then as today, you can buy em for a fifth of booze.
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
MOLON LABE
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the more inbred you get, the harder it is to afford the 5th of booze!
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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Campfire Oracle
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It doesnt cost near enough.,
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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UPhiker,
I don't know the current figure but in 2009, when we finally got our adopted daughter naturalized (as a DIY project), it was about 3,000.ooUSD "out of pocket" & MANY, MANY hours of "aggravation" in dealing with the lazy, uncaring, "soul-less bureaucrats" of (what was then called) The US Immigration & Naturalizaton Service. (I did all of the "stuff" myself, as I didn't have the 25,000.oo that the "usual" immigration lawyers wanted to do the same things that I could do, though they could do them MUCH quicker. - One lawyer told me that he could get my daughter naturalized within 30 days OR he would refund the 40,000.oo that he quoted me.)
Within one year, I lost count of the SILLY, time-wasting, administrative errors & some OUTRIGHT falsehoods that I was told by the bureaucrats during that long/exhausting process. (The INS is "really good" at LOSING important documents, including "misplacing" letters that the agency received & "signed for" by CERTIFIED MAIL. = In many cases, someone at INS claimed that they NEVER received the document, until they were faced with the USPS "green card" whereon the document was signed for. In several of those cases, the bureaucrat said: We may have received it but we cannot locate it, so you have to send us another certified copy.)
I came to the conclusion that the MAJOR problem with the INS is that the employees KNOW that they cannot be fired for "doing nothing", or even for complete incompetence/inability to do the minimum job requirements.
yours, tex
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I think that most of us can agree that it is much harder, longer and more expensive than it was when most of our ancestors came to this country.
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You could be pretty well inbred by now. You sayin' there's something wrong with my Maw boy?
Paul
"I'd rather see a sermon than hear a sermon".... D.A.D.
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