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Well until the Looney kicks in.. Any one interested in A Sauer 101 Classic Select with a Minox ZA5 2X10. I am guessing if I do my part the 270 will do just fine. The Sauer will be kept for the deep woods.
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338Rules,
I "built" my 6.5 PRC on a "short magnum" Remington 700 action, since it was already a suitable rifle, the 9.3 Barsness-Sisk that Charlie Sisk built over a decade ago, with a pillar-bedded Bansner High Tech stock and a #4 Lilja barrel. Simply had Charlie stick on another #4 Lilja 6.5 barrel.
Then I decided to see how the rifle shot with various bullets seated to 2.86", the max length that would work in the factory magazine, before installing a long box. Turned out at least three of the bullets I hoped to use shot BETTER at 2.86" inch than when seated close to the lands. This isn't unusual with high-BC bullets, in my experience, and particularly with the Barnes LRX. Curioser, and Curioser ! What were the OAL when seated to the lands ? I believe that this is the same 700 SA magnum that you so traitorously discarded an accurate 7Saum barrel , because of bullet length issues. Your co-conspirator in all these shenanigans , CharlieS must be truly persuasive 😉 I look forward to reading more about your findings with the 6.5 PRC , especially in the context of your experience with the 26 Nosler and 6.5x300 Bee. No doubt, you’ll feel compelled to drag out the 256 Newton in your historical preamble.😎 Happy New Year
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Well after a lot of thought, comparisons etc. I bought a rifle. Found a NIB Sako 85 synthetic for $899 in 270 Winchester. That and I have brass, dies, and 11 suitable powders on the bench made the decision easier. I'm sure that the new Sauer 100 is a good rifle, but it would not be a Sako, and the price was less than $200 difference. Now a lot of range time.. Are we still talking about shots to 300 yards on the outside?
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Judman,
You can buy a Sauer 100 for $799. I strongly suspect there will be more. Saw these last night at SW for a cool grand. That's a good price.
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Judman,
You can buy a Sauer 100 for $799. I strongly suspect there will be more. Saw these last night at SW for a cool grand. That's a good price. Saw them for 699 last week.
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If you want a 6.5 consider the 6.5-06. Pick up a used 30-06/270 rifle of your choice & rebarrel to 6.5-06. Nothing to to change or alter.Rebarrel & shoot. Get 6.5 PRC exact ballistics for a fraction of the cost with mountains of inexpensive 25-06/30-06 new & once fired brass. Yes the 270 is a decent cartridge but I sensed you really want a 6.5. The 6.5 will allow bullets from 85gr to 160. Will handle any thing from mice to moose with the right bullet. Plus mild recoil. If deer is you target a 100gr Barnes or Nosler Partition. For long range the 6.5 bullet selection goes on & on.
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If you want a 6.5 consider the 6.5-06. Pick up a used 30-06/270 rifle of your choice & rebarrel to 6.5-06. Nothing to to change or alter.Rebarrel & shoot. Get 6.5 PRC exact ballistics for a fraction of the cost with mountains of inexpensive 25-06/30-06 new & once fired brass. Yes the 270 is a decent cartridge but I sensed you really want a 6.5. The 6.5 will allow bullets from 85gr to 160. Will handle any thing from mice to moose with the right bullet. Plus mild recoil. If deer is you target a 100gr Barnes or Nosler Partition. For long range the 6.5 bullet selection goes on & on. All true if you reload (which the OP states he does). I think much of the appeal of the creed, and prc by extension, is being able to buy quality factory loads relatively inexpensively. Why no one makes a 6.5/06 factory load in this era of everything 6.5 is probably a question for JB (or has been covered before.)
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Well I went with a Sako 85 in 270. Range will be possible 300 yards shots. 6.5-06 is interesting, and I have a possible donor sitting around. A push feed Winchester Model 70 that is currently a 243. It is however a long action. One of those mid 70's XTR Models. When the looney kicks in again that one may get some attention.
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Try the 150g LRAB and H100V. Makes the .270 Win better than the 7mm RM loads I used for 20+ years.
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I have the Hornady ELD-X and the new Sierra Gamechangers on the way, will get some LRAB's as well. The Accubond in 130 is the favorite load in the Steyr (6.5X57) that I gave my daughter. 130's to 150's in the 270 seem to be the best for deer and up. Lots of range time coming up, new scope with a BDC and actually shooting at the yardage instead of how many inches up at 100 yards...
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Definitely try the 150 ABLR.
My 6.5 Creedmoor loves the 142 ABLR and the bullet performs extremely well on game, near and far. I’m liking it better than the ELD-X.
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Tag to follow up 150gr ABLR loads and results...
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150 ABLR's were horrible in my 270. I'd guess R26 would push them better.
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150 ABLR's were horrible in my 270. I'd guess R26 would push them better. Dang, that is a good shooting load right there. Might be tough to top that one!
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Well I went with a Sako 85 in 270. Range will be possible 300 yards shots. 6.5-06 is interesting, and I have a possible donor sitting around. A push feed Winchester Model 70 that is currently a 243. It is however a long action. One of those mid 70's XTR Models. When the looney kicks in again that one may get some attention. Stick a vanilla 130 on top of about 55 grains of "4350" and you'll be golden. It's only 300 yards. I believe you're overthinking it. Am I a lone voice crying in the wilderness?
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Well I went with a Sako 85 in 270. Range will be possible 300 yards shots. 6.5-06 is interesting, and I have a possible donor sitting around. A push feed Winchester Model 70 that is currently a 243. It is however a long action. One of those mid 70's XTR Models. When the looney kicks in again that one may get some attention. Stick a vanilla 130 on top of about 55 grains of "4350" and you'll be golden. It's only 300 yards. I believe you're overthinking it. Am I a lone voice crying in the wilderness? Nope. 300 isn't very far A box of WW 130g Power-Points will do just fine at that range.
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I've got RL26 and 4831SC, 150gr ABLR's, and an 1:8" twist Lilja fitted to a Stiller action. Need to go play next week after the wind dies down...
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Well I went with a Sako 85 in 270. Range will be possible 300 yards shots. 6.5-06 is interesting, and I have a possible donor sitting around. A push feed Winchester Model 70 that is currently a 243. It is however a long action. One of those mid 70's XTR Models. When the looney kicks in again that one may get some attention. Stick a vanilla 130 on top of about 55 grains of "4350" and you'll be golden. It's only 300 yards. I believe you're overthinking it. Am I a lone voice crying in the wilderness? Nope. 300 isn't very far A box of WW 130g Power-Points will do just fine at that range. The more you shoot it, the closer it is too....I went Hornady 140 BTSP's Customs. .486 BC @ 2,940. Easy peasy.....
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Heck, I've gone to 308 loads with 165 Ballistic Tips at 2550 fps +/- for 300 yards and in.
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[Stick a vanilla 130 on top of about 55 grains of "4350" and you'll be golden. It's only 300 yards. I believe you're overthinking it. Am I a lone voice crying in the wilderness? Nope. 300 isn't very far A box of WW 130g Power-Points will do just fine at that range. The more you shoot it, the closer it is too....I went Hornady 140 BTSP's Customs. .486 BC @ 2,940. Easy peasy..... Agreed. 20 years ago I thought 200 yards was a pretty long shot because most of my shooting was at 100. When the range was reconfigured I started shooting 300, then gradually out to 600, then clay pigeons at 600. These days 300 seems close.
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