McCarthy was chasing real communists. Most of the people he accused were revealed as communists, some after his death. Mueller, on the other hand, is a blunt instrument of the left. Maybe you don't remember this because it happened a while ago, but Clinton staffers wrote a book about the 2016 presidential campaign called "Shattered". This book made it clear that Mook and Podesta, Clinton campaign managers, came up with the Russia Collusion lie to cover up their ignominious defeat. From the book:
"That strategy had been set within twenty-four hours of her concession speech. Mook and Podesta assembled her communications team at the Brooklyn headquarters to engineer the case that the election wasn’t entirely on the up-and-up. For a couple of hours, with Shake Shack containers littering the room, they went over the script they would pitch to the press and the public. Already, Russian hacking was the centerpiece of the argument.
"In Brooklyn, her team coalesced around the idea that Russian hacking was the major unreported story of the campaign, overshadowed by the contents of stolen e-mails and Hillary’s own private- server imbroglio."
So the whole thing was made up from whole cloth, and the real scandal is that federal police agencies and judges were either willing accomplices to this fraud or deceived, and used the power of the federal government against a presidential candidate and president-elect. And they continue the Mueller investigation with absolutely zero evidence of an underlying crime in contravention of US law. I hope they are all line up against a wall and machine gunned.
More McCarthy bull sh*t.
Leo of the Land of Dyr
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I MISS SARAH
“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
LIBERALS' SECRET WEAPON: REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T READ
No, the idea that McCarthy threw out unsubstantiated charges and switched numbers, from 57 to 205, were the wild-eyed allegations of McCarthy haters, which, on closer examination, turned out to be completely false, just like the accusations against the Duke lacrosse players, the tea partiers and Rove.
It was proved false at the time -- not just decades later, when McCarthy was vindicated with a whoop with the release of Soviet archives and cables. _______________________________________________
The truth about McCarthy's Wheeling speech, including the committee's memo finding that McCarthy was telling the truth, and a newspaper article reprinting the speech before it became a object of obsession by Democrats, is given in M. Stanton Evans' monumental book, Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies.
Moreover, contrary to the nonsense about McCarthy not being able to name the 57 specific individuals, the very day he got back to Washington, he gave a six-hour speech on the Senate floor, providing details about each one of the 57 problematic State Department employees, chapter and verse. He did not "name names" because that was not his point.
As McCarthy said, some State Department employees with communist associations might be innocent. His point was: The Democrats were still refusing to take Soviet espionage seriously by investigating these preposterous risks on the government payroll.
LIBERALS' SECRET WEAPON: REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T READ
[i]No, the idea that McCarthy threw out unsubstantiated charges and switched numbers, from 57 to 205, were the wild-eyed allegations of McCarthy haters, which, on closer examination, turned out to be completely false, just like the accusations against the Duke lacrosse players, the tea partiers and Rove.
It was proved false at the time -- not just decades later, when McCarthy was vindicated with a whoop with the release of Soviet archives and cables. _______________________________________________
The truth about McCarthy's Wheeling speech, including the committee's memo finding that McCarthy was telling the truth, and a newspaper article reprinting the speech before it became a object of obsession by Democrats, is given in M. Stanton Evans' monumental book, Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies.
Moreover, contrary to the nonsense about McCarthy not being able to name the 57 specific individuals, the very day he got back to Washington, he gave a six-hour speech on the Senate floor, providing details about each one of the 57 problematic State Department employees, chapter and verse. He did not "name names" because that was not his point.
As McCarthy said, some State Department employees with communist associations might be innocent. His point was: The Democrats were still refusing to take Soviet espionage seriously by investigating these preposterous risks on the government payroll.[/i
I like Little Annie...when she is right...But this one she got completely wrong. Reminds me of when she backed Romney. She is right about the "Wild-eyed" accusations against Rove...
Ask her if she has ever watched re-runs of "Tail-gunner Joe."
Let me re-ask the same question. How any innocent people with communist associations did McCarthy ruin by calling them "spies?"
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Leo of the Land of Dyr
NRA FOR LIFE
I MISS SARAH
“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
The term McCarthyism described the practice of publicly accusing government employees of political disloyalty or subversive activities and using unsavory investigatory methods to prosecute them. The criticisms of McCarthyism, and of Wisconsin Senator Joseph McCarthy (pictured here) in particular, are threefold. First, he ruined the reputations and lives of many people by accusing them without credible evidence. Second, he used accusations of communist sympathies to counterattack anyone who criticized his methods. And, third, he argued against freedom of speech because much of his rhetoric assumed that any discussion of the ideas underlying communism was dangerous and un-American. The U.S. Supreme Court has referenced McCarthyism in several of its First Amendment decisions.
Here's another movie that came out of Hollywood not that long ago.
Here's some info on the main character. (although none of the executions that he ordered were shown in the movie)
Che Guevara was a prominent communist figure in the Cuban Revolution (1956–59) who went on to become a guerrilla leader in South America. Executed by the Bolivian army in 1967, he has since been regarded as a martyred hero by generations of leftists worldwide. Guevara’s image remains a prevalent icon of leftist radicalism. ______________________________________________________
Since his death, Guevara has become a legendary political figure. His name is often equated with rebellion, revolution, and socialism. Others, however, still remember that he could be ruthless and ordered prisoners executed without trial in Cuba. Guevara’s life continues to be a subject of great public interest and been explored and portrayed in numerous books and films, including The Motorcycle Diaries (2004).
Deciphering truth from propaganda is not your forte.
I'm not sure he is reading or thinking about what he is posting. Knowing how leftist much of DC is, then reading his posts is like he is trying to prove to us that DC is leftist/communist. Totally amazing.
The only difference that I can see is that McCarthy was running a kangaroo court to hound and destroy the reputations of suspected communists and Mueller is doing the same thing to the president. McCarthy was eventually censured and disgraced. When will it happen to Mueller?
Mueller is more likely to be honored for saving the country from a traitor and liar. Time will tell.
Mccarthy used grandstanding tactits, and tried to use the court of public opinion and fear to make his points. He did not preform an investigation in the true sense. He followed templates used in other totalitarian regimes like Stalin's USSR, and Hitlers Germany.
The Mueller investigation is not similar in any way, except for President Trumps behavior towards it. I would hope that the american public will be able to see what the investigation found, so we can judge for ourselves.
Grandpa fought Fascists in WWII, Dad fought Communists in Vietnam. - American is meant for the middle.
Yes McCarthy exposed a few actual communists. But he ruined the reputation of many honest American patriots who simply didn't want to knuckle under to his (and the left's) despicable tactics, Mueller is doing the same thing. It's about time that we got rid of him.
That's actually not right.
When The Venona Papers were released (the KGB did actually keep track of CPUSA members and sympathizers), it vindicated McCarthy at 100%. Every single person McCarthy outed was in fact a communist. McCarthy's only failing was not outing more.
I said McCarthy could not find any more today than he did in the early 1950s.
Bowsinger, you are wrong and Bristoe is correct.
Hollywood -- or "show business" -- has been well populated with communists since the 1920s, and has continued through today. Back in the '30s and '40s, it was normal for many people in "the Business" to claim membership in the Communist Party USA. After the HUAA Committe and McCarthy hearings, many just went underground. Same ideology, just not as overt. To this day, the greatest heroes of the Hollywood set are the Hollywood Ten, the ten writers who refused to testify as to their membership in the Communist Party, or against the writers who were also members of the CPUSA.
Were the Hollywood Ten writers communists? Damned right. Dalton Trumbo was a leader of the bunch and was a stone cold communist. He even wrote for and edited the communist newspaper for awhile. So was Ring Lardner, Jr., Howard Fast, John Howard Lawson, and the others. They, and many other actors, writers, directors, etc., known communists were blacklisted by the studios. These people sought the destruction of the U.S. Constitution and our Constitutional Republic and wanted to replace them with a Soviet based government.
Let me make it clear here that I do not believe in any government censorship or blacklisting although my political ideology is 180° opposite those communists or socialists or progressives, or whatever the call themselves at the moment.
The heads of the studios "blacklisted" the Hollywood Ten and others, not the government. After several years, a number of the writers were able again to work in Hollywood, Dalton Trumbo and Carl Foreman being the most noted.
I assure you there are communists in Hollywood today, but what they usually call themselves are "socialists" or "progressives. I have known a number of them. Their ideology is no different than in previous years. I know a successful writer who loves firearms and has stated "My politics are to the left of Fidel Castro's." I've shot with him at the Beverly Hills Gun Club.
The reason I know what I am posting here is my background is "show business." Although I am now retired, I have been a successful screenwriter since pre-WGA strike of 1973. I have been a current member of the Writers Guild of America since pre-WGA strike of 1973 and am today, a current member. I say again, Bristoe is correct.
FWIW.
L.W.
"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." (William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830s.)
