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Doug,
I stand by my statement of Meopta does not pay attention to users.
I have had several " communications" with CS/ engineers/ marketing from Meopta ....they made it clear to me Meopta intended to carry on as they saw fit.
At first feed back was welcomed ....However, they soon made it clear...they know all, as they explained why Meopta was right.
I have no intentions to explain, however , several points brought up in this forum were mentioned.
All that being said, Meopta could be on to something.
Best,
Chuck
I’ve come to believe that those that complain the most buy fewer scopes than those that don’t. Most manufacturers know what sells better than a complaining customer. I’ve come to believe people buy whatever scope they want. It’s probably not a coincidence that newer scopes have these type of characteristics like Optika6 and “dialer” scopes . They know what they’re doing. They are appealing to the masses and not a few non dialing consumers. You can’t please everyone.
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Doug,
I stand by my statement of Meopta does not pay attention to users.
I have had several " communications" with CS/ engineers/ marketing from Meopta ....they made it clear to me Meopta intended to carry on as they saw fit.
At first feed back was welcomed ....However, they soon made it clear...they know all, as they explained why Meopta was right.
I have no intentions to explain, however , several points brought up in this forum were mentioned.
All that being said, Meopta could be on to something.
Best,
Chuck
I’ve come to believe that those that complain the most buy fewer scopes than those that don’t. Most manufacturers know what sells better than a complaining customer. I’ve come to believe people buy whatever scope they want. It’s probably not a coincidence that newer scopes have these type of characteristics like Optika6 and “dialer” scopes . They know what they’re doing. They are appealing to the masses and not a few non dialing consumers. You can’t please everyone. Exactly. That’s my point.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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The new OPTIKA HD binos look interesting
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Sorry, you do not have the capacity to understand the difference between complaining and communicating ideas.
i have 7-10 scopes ( most new) now waiting to be mounted on rifles.
I communicated with Leupold 20 years ago or so about a few things, not complaining but ideas. I wanted to generate interest in different reticles . FFP was pretty much a European thing back then. Leupold was behind in reticle development.
The companies that sell the most, of anything, at least listen.
I have been a manufacturer since '78. Sometimes , I listen. But , not to nitwits.
What you have come to believe is BS you make up.
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JWP
Sorry, you do not have the capacity to understand the difference between complaining and communicating ideas.
i have 7-10 scopes ( most new) now waiting to be mounted on rifles.
I communicated with Leupold 20 years ago or so about a few things, not complaining but ideas. I wanted to generate interest in different reticles . FFP was pretty much a European thing back then. Leupold was behind in reticle development.
The companies that sell the most, of anything, at least listen.
I have been a manufacturer since '78. Sometimes , I listen. But , not to nitwits.
What you have come to believe is BS you make up.
Call it what you want, but my point stands. I’m sure they have experts making those decisions on what sells and aren’t going to go with someone on wants/opinion when making a business decision Sorry if you can’t comprehend
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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The new OPTIKA HD binos look interesting Binos -? I'll need to take a look.
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JWP,
You don't comprehend or understand....... marketing is the driver.
There is a difference between selling and serving your customer base.
I understand you buy what sells ....doesn't mean it is waht you want
The "experts" have you all figured out.
I'm done here....snow to be pushed.....don't have time to play with a fool.
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Here is the link For the binos
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I'm thinking, I'm not a fan of these binoculars.
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JWP,
You don't comprehend or understand....... marketing is the driver.
There is a difference between selling and serving your customer base.
I understand you buy what sells ....doesn't mean it is waht you want
The "experts" have you all figured out.
I'm done here....snow to be pushed.....don't have time to play with a fool.
The manufacturer is in buissnes to sell product and is going to make what sells and if it sells he is indeed making what most of his customers want.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Meopta’s website needs to show reticle details with sub tensions.
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Does the MeoTac 3-12x50 RD exist as a production item for sale in the USA?
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Doug,
I stand by my statement of Meopta does not pay attention to users.
I have had several " communications" with CS/ engineers/ marketing from Meopta ....they made it clear to me Meopta intended to carry on as they saw fit.
At first feed back was welcomed ....However, they soon made it clear...they know all, as they explained why Meopta was right.
I have no intentions to explain, however , several points brought up in this forum were mentioned.
All that being said, Meopta could be on to something.
Best,
Chuck
Chuck, With all due respect I believe that if you communicate with Randy, Randy.Garrison  meopta.com who is head of Sports optics or with Erik, Erik.Muller meopta.com wh is head of customer service you would feel differently I am sure they will be excited to know I have shared their contact info here 
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Does the MeoTac 3-12x50 RD exist as a production item for sale in the USA?
It is due around April/May.
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Meopta is changing. Randy and Erik are making a difference.
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I thought Erik Muller was a pleasure to deal with.
As for meeting needs, I'm sure they are working very hard to sell the types of scopes that will sell. While this one does not meet my desires that doesn't mean its not a smart design for them. Purely personal preference on my part.
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jeez folks they will be unveiled tomorrow at SHOT range day, we will start hearing actual reports instead of haters attitudes........ yall must be saints fans
hoop there it is
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jeez folks they will be unveiled tomorrow at SHOT range day, we will start hearing actual reports instead of haters attitudes........ yall must be saints fans
hoop there it is Still won[t stop the dipchitts from commenting on a scope they never saw or held in person.
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Well this dipshitt can look at a design and have an opinion about it. Never said it’s a bad scope, just not what I’m looking for.
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Well this dipshitt can look at a design and have an opinion about it. Never said it’s a bad scope, just not what I’m looking for. What differentiates this scope from a zillion other scopes with elevated turrets? Again no one has seen, touched this scope.
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