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Die sale's are one componet remember there's lots of folk who don't reload...Wondering the results of factory ammo sales.I can see 30-06 270 being the kings with 7 Rem and 300 Win taking top spot for belted magnums.

Disagree.

Thanks for the die sales list. Makes perfect sense, especially back in 2004. I would have to guess that the WSM's (270 and 300 anyway) might have moved up the ladder a bit in the last 3+ years.

Just an observation. From the results here the trend seems to be that a lot of guided hunters use a 300 Win. and the locals tend to use something else.

Personally, I don't know anyone who shoots 300 Win. in a "go-to" hunting rifle.

I dont know if 300 winny is the standard but it is the BEST

Disagree.

I like to lurk near the gun counter sometimes and listen out of the corner of my ear to the conversation that takes place between gun buyers and gun sellers. I think the majority of gun sales are some form of the WSM. Guys that already have a lot of rifles are buying them because they don't own one yet, and buyers new to the sport are buying them because of all they see/hear about them. Plus sellers are happy to push them, because "longer range and more killing power" makes their job that much easier.

Most of the time when I see a serious buyer thinking it over hard, he's got a 300WSM, 270WSM, 325WSM, or 7mm Rem Mag in his hands. But that's not to say that I think any of those chamberings are a bad choice. Like I say, it's just what I see getting handled at the gun counter.

Seems like everyone and their dog around here uses the 7mm Rem Mag. See some 30-06's, a couple .300 Win's, and a few 25-06's as well...

The 300 wsm makes no sense to me it doesn't match the performance of the 300 win, and it's a little ahead of the 30-06. I would just take a 30-06 rather than go with a 300wsm.The 300 win, 338 win 300 ultra are very poular in my area.It seems alot of the 300 wsm guys have bought into the hype then when they chronograph them and get the real scoop they want to sell or trade them around here.. 180 gr and 200 gr bullets fly flatter and hit harder out of the 300 win than they do in the wsm. I see this as a advantage when hunting elk,bear moose, and often at extended ranges.

The longer barrel thing gets thrown around a lot, but the truth is even with a 24" barrel a 300 winny has around 300 fps advantage over a -06 in factory loads.
I prefer my 300 Winny's to have 24" tubes.

What are you talking about? I have Nosler 4,5 in front of me and cant for the life of me find what your referring to?

I feel the same way.

That .308 doesn't make any sense to me as it doesn't match the performance of the .30-06 and is just a little ahead of the .300 Savage.

What's that law in geometry? For every point A and B, there is a midpoint C.

Heck, we haven't even begun to split these hairs minutely enough, although I hear T/C just cut one.

Uh, I mean, they split the hair a little finer...

I think we all spend too much time picking stuff apart that dont need picked!

Open your manual to the page on the 300 Winchester Magnum. Now look at the bottom of the page. Its under "Technical Information".

I dunno about .300 WM becoming more popular than the .30-06, but I disagree that the .300 WM is becoming the "standard."

Local Deer/Elk/BlackBear hunters use: 30-06, 270, 300 Winny, 7mm Remington (standard) magnum.

The 30-06 is king in sales if'n you include the chain store sales. Then 300, 7mm, and 270, are next. Then the 30/30 and 243.

Then . . . . . . everything else.

Oh, and 30-06 and 30/30 ammo are the big sellers. There are still oodles of 30/30s out there.

BMT

FWIW:

The Reloading Dies for sale at local Bi-Marts:

223, 22-250, 243, 270, 7mm Rem Mag, 30-06, 300 Win, 338 Win, 9mm, 38/357, 45 ACP, 44 Magnum. That covers the whole enchilada, both as to what they sell, and what a guy really needs.

BMT

Of Course, that is where is was designed to fit . . . .

BMT

Good Grief.

Here's what you're calling a "caution:"

"We do not recommend seating any of our .30 caliber spitzer bullets to the 3.340" O.A.L. as the bullet will be seated too deep in the case."

GASP!

That tidbit is thrown around constantly as if it's some sort of unsafe practice. The only reason that could remotely be confused as a caution is if the deep-seated bullets won't allow enough powder to achieve max velocities. Certainly the case with some powders but not with all.

Course you could caution us about the evils of belted cases...

out of the last 27 rifles i worked on (new barrels,rechamber,accurizing) 19 have been 300 win mag, 4 338 mag,2 280 rem, 1 06, 1 243.. i have been thru the whole line of 300's and i really like the 300 win mag in a 7 1/2 lb gun,

I have a 300 Winnie, and it's a great rifle. If the rifle I bought had been chambered for 30-06 with the same bells and whistles, I would have that one instead. Having said that, my winnie is a real tack driver, and a real game killer. Never shot more than one round per head of game. I practice lots, though, and I use premium handloads, so the edge is usually on my side.