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Interesting names will be considered. ould you vote for any of these guys?
Fred McGriff Gary Sheffield Dale Murphy?
What about
Bonds Clemens Sosa McGuire?
BTW - I would have never voted for harold Baines. He belongs in the Hall of Pretty Good with many others I like.
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I would not vote for the steroid users, the last four on your list.
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Clemens...maybe, the rest no. I agree with Baines comment.
Steroids were in baseball well before the 90s....I imagine there are more than several are in the Hall that used steroids.
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I wouldn’t vote for any of them.
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Murphy is a class act and was a good player. I'm not certain he is HOF good, but certainly deserves a spot in the Atlanta Braves best all time players roster.
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I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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My first choice would be for Charley Hustle - aka Pete Rose.
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Steroid users destroyed meaningful baseball historical stats and ultimately the hall of fame. Such a shame.
There are plenty of guys already in the hall that used them. It's a friggen travesty.
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Barry and Roger are two of the best to ever lace em’ up.
The self-righteous deniers need to STFU.
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My first choice would be for Charley Hustle - aka Pete Rose.
^This.
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My first choice would be for Charley Hustle - aka Pete Rose.
^This. Can you imagine a bunch of pretentious baseball WRITERS keeping this guy out forever. If he isn’t in, the HOF is a joke.
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The 1st 4 no; good players, not HOF'ers.
The last 4, a reluctant yes, in spite of the steroid use, much as I hate to have to say it...........& I absolutely despise Bonds.
Baines is not a legitimate HOF'er either, not even close.
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Pete Rose should be in the HOF, period.
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The 1st 4 no; good players, not HOF'ers.
The last 4, a reluctant yes, in spite of the steroid use, much as I hate to have to say it...........& I absolutely despise Bonds.
Baines is not a legitimate HOF'er either, not even close.
MM I understand everyone’s dislike of Bonds, but in the last 40 years, who would you rather see take an at-bat?
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Bands is an ass, but in my view, he was a legit HOFer before he juiced. He was 500 HRs and 300 SBs and .300 lifetime hitter without the juice. McGuire juiced from day one, so if you are anti juice, then he's got a problem. Same with Sosa. He was an early adopter of PED's.
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I'd vote for Roger Clemens, and would probably vote for Bonds although I never could stand him.
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No mention of curt schilling
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The 1st 4 no; good players, not HOF'ers.
The last 4, a reluctant yes, in spite of the steroid use, much as I hate to have to say it...........& I absolutely despise Bonds.
Baines is not a legitimate HOF'er either, not even close.
MM I'm in this camp!
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No mention of curt schilling Go ahead. My list was not meant to be all inclusive. Far short of 300 wins. He does have 3100 K's. I put Shilling in my Dale Murphy category. Dominated his ear at a level above what the stats show. 216 wins is a long, long way from 300, and that will be the argument. If I'm voting, he's in long before Baines.
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