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Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? hatari #13481406 01/22/19
Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 14,076 40 Years too Late H heavywalker Campfire Outfitter
heavywalker Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 14,076 40 Years too Late	Edgar Martinez needs to be in. Career .312 hitter and I'm a homer.

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? MontanaMan #13481407 01/22/19
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,709 Likes: 5 The state of Excellence Stickfight Campfire Outfitter
Stickfight Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,709 Likes: 5 The state of Excellence	Originally Posted by MontanaMan Do y'all think that Tigger Woods was juicing? 100% yes. No one goes to doping doctors for anything other than doping.

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? JMR40 #13481420 01/22/19
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 10,311 Likes: 3 Idaho muleshoe Campfire Outfitter
muleshoe Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 10,311 Likes: 3 Idaho	Originally Posted by JMR40 Murphy is a class act and was a good player. I'm not certain he is HOF good, but certainly deserves a spot in the Atlanta Braves best all time players roster. This. Always liked Murphy, a very class act. Black Cows Matter!

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? hatari #13481425 01/22/19
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 10,311 Likes: 3 Idaho muleshoe Campfire Outfitter
muleshoe Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 10,311 Likes: 3 Idaho	Originally Posted by hatari Anybody here that wouldn't vote for Mariano Rivera? Hated the guy 'cuz he was just so darned good. But heck yeah I'd vote for him. Might be the best ever reliever. Black Cows Matter!

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? hatari #13481428 01/22/19
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 4,533 Middle Ga K killerv Campfire Tracker
killerv Campfire Tracker K Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 4,533 Middle Ga	There were highschoolers and college atheletes doing roids in the 60 and 70s....folks really believe Aaron and others may not have partaken?

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Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? hatari #13481453 01/22/19
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 4,850 Galt's Gulch Colorado D Dess Campfire Tracker
Dess Campfire Tracker D Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 4,850 Galt's Gulch Colorado	Todd Helton. Alas, he played in Colorado and won't be considered. Great player regardless of venue. No steroid controversy at all. Career .316 batting average(60th all time), 592 doubles (19th all time), 160 more walks than strikeouts over 17 seasons. AB R H HR RBI SB AVG OBP SLG 2B BB K MLB Career Stats 7962 1401 2519 369 1406 37 .316 .414 .539 592 1335 1175 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat." 2 Thessalonians 3:10

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? hatari #13481480 01/22/19
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RipSnort Campfire Tracker R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,874	Mariano Rivera is a unanimous, first ballot, Hall of Famer. No doubt. RS

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? lastround #13481496 01/22/19
Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 19,211 The Pennyrile of Kentucky JamesJr Campfire Ranger
JamesJr Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 19,211 The Pennyrile of Kentucky	Originally Posted by lastround Thanks H for the information about Mantle. He WAS baseball for me in the 50’s and 60’s. I almost lost interest in MLB when he left the game. Same way here. I grew up a Yankee fan, and Mantle was the big star. Had he been healthy, there is no doubt would have set several records.

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? wabigoon #13481505 01/22/19
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JamesJr Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 19,211 The Pennyrile of Kentucky	Originally Posted by wabigoon I'll put in a plug foe Shoeless Joe Jackson. By all accounts, one of the best to ever play the game. He was screwed big time by the powers to be in baseball, so they could protect the owners.

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? 260Remguy #13481515 01/22/19
Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 19,211 The Pennyrile of Kentucky JamesJr Campfire Ranger
JamesJr Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 19,211 The Pennyrile of Kentucky	Originally Posted by 260Remguy One of the Cardinal sins for MLB players is gambling on the game. RULE 21 (d) is absolutely clear on the subject of gambling on the game. (d) BETTING ON BALL GAMES. Any player, umpire, or club official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has no duty to perform shall be declared ineligible for one year. Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible. Pete Rose was a great player who got caught breaking RULE 21 (d). He did the crime and is doing the time. He broke baseball's cardinal sin.........Though shalt not bet on the game. He did it, admitted he did, and for years showed little remorse, being the azzhole that he is. I have no sympathy for Rose, even though he was one of the best to ever play the game.

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Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? 260Remguy #13481518 01/22/19
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sawbuck Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 7,015 Oklahoma	Originally Posted by 260Remguy I'd never vote for a steroid user. Clemens was a .506 pitcher, 40W - 39L, during his last four years with Boston, 1993 - 1996, but he seems to have found the Fountain of Youth in Toronto, going 41W - 13L, .752, during the next two years and then 77W - 36L, .681, during the next four years in New York., and then 38W - 18L, .679, during the next three years with Houston. To recap, Clemens went through a four year drought and then went on to win 162 of his 352 games. That seems a bit suspicious to me. He got Mr. Splitty working. $$$ TRUMP AT THE PUMP 2024 $$$

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? hatari #13481556 01/22/19
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,253 Likes: 6 W. Texas J JGRaider Campfire Ranger
JGRaider Campfire Ranger J Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,253 Likes: 6 W. Texas	Originally Posted by hatari Anybody here that wouldn't vote for Mariano Rivera? No brainer. It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? hatari #13481611 01/22/19
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 28,172 Here Or There luv2safari Campfire Ranger
luv2safari Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 28,172 Here Or There	These guys...hell no! All juicers... Bonds Clemens Sosa McGuire Hunt with Class and Classics Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? lastround #13481684 01/22/19
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 28,172 Here Or There luv2safari Campfire Ranger
luv2safari Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 28,172 Here Or There	Originally Posted by lastround Thanks H for the information about Mantle. He WAS baseball for me in the 50’s and 60’s. I almost lost interest in MLB when he left the game. I still admire MM. He never dogged it and always hustled. Hunt with Class and Classics Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? hatari #13481816 01/22/19
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EthanEdwards Campfire Kahuna Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 54,284 Parts unknown...	Definitely the bottom four. Pete Rose being left out is one of the stupidest things ever. How can anybody justify baseball's all-time leader in Hits being left out. Shoeless Joe too.

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? hatari #13482054 01/22/19
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 32,208 OMAHA 260Remguy Campfire 'Bwana
260Remguy Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 32,208 OMAHA	I know of at least one cheater in the HOF. Gaylord Perry, who won 314 games and was known to throw the spitter.

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? sawbuck #13482067 01/22/19
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 32,208 OMAHA 260Remguy Campfire 'Bwana
260Remguy Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 32,208 OMAHA	Originally Posted by sawbuck Originally Posted by 260Remguy I'd never vote for a steroid user. Clemens was a .506 pitcher, 40W - 39L, during his last four years with Boston, 1993 - 1996, but he seems to have found the Fountain of Youth in Toronto, going 41W - 13L, .752, during the next two years and then 77W - 36L, .681, during the next four years in New York., and then 38W - 18L, .679, during the next three years with Houston. To recap, Clemens went through a four year drought and then went on to win 162 of his 352 games. That seems a bit suspicious to me. He got Mr. Splitty working. Or was it the cream and the clear?

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? JamesJr #13482104 01/22/19
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 28,202 Central CA Barkoff Campfire Ranger
Barkoff Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 28,202 Central CA	Originally Posted by JamesJr [quote=260Remguy]One of the Cardinal sins for MLB players is gambling on the game. RULE 21 (d) is absolutely clear on the subject of gambling on the game. (d) BETTING ON BALL GAMES. Any player, umpire, or club official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has no duty to perform shall be declared ineligible for one year. Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible. Pete Rose was a great player who got caught breaking RULE 21 (d). He did the crime and is doing the time. I get that, but as a fan I want Rose in, he is a player from our era, and I want all the great players of my era represented. Don’t care about Rose, ya he was slimy, but he is a great player of our era, I want our era represented for future fans. Everything he did on the field was legit..unlike Bonds and Macguire.

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? Barkoff #13482108 01/22/19
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NDsnowman Campfire Tracker N Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,471 Rio Rancho, NM	Roger Maris before any of those listed. After that, I would begin to give consideration to others.

Re: Baseball HOF voting - would you vote for any of these? hatari #13482119 01/22/19
Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 60,893 Likes: 10 Iowa/NW Ontario W wabigoon Campfire Kahuna
wabigoon Campfire Kahuna W Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 60,893 Likes: 10 Iowa/NW Ontario	When Maris was traded to the Cardinals, he choked up on the bat, and raised his batting average. He played a good right field, and Gussie Bush rewarded Maris with a Budweiser distributorship in Florida. Roger Maris died young though, always a shame. These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"

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