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Winchester came out with a new rifle round called the 350 Legend. All the ads look great but no real numbers have been released. This round seems perfect for the eastern woods deer hunter, and there are plenty of places that allow only straight wall rifle rounds.

Frankly, the 450 bushmaster and the 45-70 are needlessly powerful; for woods deer. Frankly something in the energy range of a 30-30 is all you ever really need. This is suppose to be light kicking and I think it would be well accepted.

But, if it stays only in the Winchester rifle I think it won't go far. If AR uppers are made and if Ruger comes out with the American in that round it will be greatly accepted.

Thoughts?

I would have interest in it in a pencil barreled AR. Other than that, there is no need except innstates that don’t allow real cartridges.

No Shoulder. Looks like a perfect mess to me.

Not as much taper as the 450 bushmaster. But you can't headspace on a taper so the 450 Bushmaster headspaces on the mouth. That's why they say to not roll crimp the 450 bushmaster, taper crimp only. Same here I imagine.

351 SL?

Looks like it would make a fantastic revolver cartridge, just need to put a rim on it. You could chamber it in a Ruger Blackhawk with maybe a stretched frame and cylinder, or I bet it would go really great in a T/C Contender....

The 45-70 can be made mild with little effort.

Think they were billing it as a “rimless 357 maximum”.

They already have a 375 Winchester they abandoned.

The more things change.. I wonder if they use the same shell holder.

I'm in one of the areas where we must use the straight wall case. I'm finding it interesting that Winchester is giving us the hype but not the data. "More energy than a 30-30" is a BS fact. The 450 Bushmaster has better energy than a 30-30, but is it not nearly as effective of a hunting cartridge (I've used both). What about velocity, BC, SD, and bullet construction?

Lack of info makes me skeptical. I'm guessing by using a case in the 1.7" (rather than the Michigan max of 1.8") area that they are also targeting the AR market. This then leads me to believe, that this is designed around a MOP in the 40,000 psi area. This would not be too exciting. However, make high quality bullets and brass available to handloaders who will push this puppy towards 60,000 psi in a bolt gun in it could become real interesting. We shall see.

FYI for those of you outside the Great Lakes area, this straight wall thing is a big deal for us. Until recently we have been slug guns or muzzle loaders. Here in lower MI, the 450 Bushmaster has absolutely changed the game. We kill over 400,000 deer per year in our state, most in the southern lower peninsula. That equates to a lot of straight wall cartridges.

405wcf

Plus about 300 - 400fps

Here's another thread on it. Someone posted ballistics and, the thing I find most interesting, a comparative recoil chart.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/13465001/1

Exactly, a new range of cartridges to fit within the regulations. I'm talking with barrel, bullet and reamer folks right now on a 41 cal version. Using 308 basic.

I hope it turns out.


I may not buy it, but the new(kinda) stuff does not bother me.



Marketing WANK does bother me. I hate it.


A slew of Nearlys and Almosts are on the way.....

On the bright side......a company finally came out with a cartridge name that makes "creedmoor" seem cool.


The new, improved Three Five Leggie.

I know somebody who did that. They slapped it on a Mauser action. It's alright!

as a 357max owner, I hope it spurs a nice component bullet

What states would this be applicable in?

IA, MI, OH.....