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Who cares Winchester has adopted your wildcat.. all those sleepless nights in Montana and Florida have finally paid off.. what you going to do with your royalty checks?

Can you pm me some information on that please, it may shorten my development time.
Thanks, Mark

.355 bullets?

It would make a kickass home defense round in an AR.

Wonder if this name will cause as much swoon as that one.

I decided during the WSM/WSSM fad that I was going to stick with traditional, readily avl. cartridges and guns.

I have not suffered any on performance in either hunting or target shooting, and can afford to get more ammo and guns to shoot with by ignoring the fads.

The target, deer, hogs, coyotes, and targets don't know the difference.

So would that headspace on the mouth, making brass length critical? Like the 30 carbine

We have a reamer for 22 Nosler. About as crazy as we get anymore.

Yes, due to the legal requirement that it be straight walled.
A rim or semi rim would work too. Then it's just a very long revolver round.

Just get a 375 or a 444.

Nope, straight wall, 35 caliber or larger, with less than 1.80" case length.

Or, you can trim those cartridge cases back to less than 1.80" and seat your bullets long or where-ever you like, and rock on.
One of our members has done this and talked with MiDNR about it, with their approval.

Yup, the 450 BM makes a fantastic brush caliber, I can't think of a caliber that would do what the 450 BM does in the Michigan brush.

If Ruger came out with it, then I'd pass it up for sure. LOL. Still can't much stomach that company.

https://winchester.com/350-Legend#charts-1

Here is true BS on the Winchester .375. - https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.375+Winchester.html

Performance

Unfortunately, it is much easier to find fault with the .375 than it is to find inherent qualities. Both factory and hand loads produce very poor muzzle velocities. Impact velocities are generally so low that the .375 struggles to produce disproportionate to caliber wounding. Where shot placement is not sound, the .375 can be a slow killer. Readers must understand that most conventional bullet designs struggle to expand at impact velocities below 1800fps, even though .375 Winchester bullets are designed to expand down to impact velocities of 1600fps. From a muzzle velocity of 2200fps, this leaves only a very small performance window. Were this cartridge loaded with a heavy Hornady XTP things may have been a lot different, but alas, there is no such bullet.

The one saving grace of this cartridge is that it the .375” bore is fairly wide to begin with while its heavy bullets are capable of delivering relatively deep penetration. Were it not for these factors, I am sure many game animals would not be recovered. But with the combination of a large bullet diameter and heavy flat pointed bullets, the .375 is able to produce reliable results.

As a lean game cartridge (such as hunting Black Tail in Oregon pines), the .375 bullets work acceptably well. But in truth wounds are not generally wider than that achieved with the .30-30 loaded with 150 grain bullets. There are certainly many stories as to how well this cartridge ‘flattens’ game but all too often we find that such things came about as a result of a spine shot which tells very little of what a cartridge is capable of when the chips are down. These matters aside, the .375 Winchester can be put to use on lean game, producing clean kills from pretty much any angle.

The .375 Winchester has some merit as a cartridge for use on larger bodied deer in heavy timber. Any velocity gains made via hand loading (safely) can be put to meaningful use. This is where this cartridge really comes into its own, fulfilling a role where the .30-30 is very much lacking.

It is extremely unwise to utilize the .375 as a ‘big game stopper’ as some seem to believe this cartridge is capable of achieving. At best the .375 can be considered a humble, clean killer of medium weight non-dangerous game. I am sure many would disagree with this but the truth is, were it any other way, this would be a much more popular cartridge. Sometimes being able to ‘eat up to the bullet hole’ is a good thing. Other times this description simply alludes to the fact that you might just get eaten yourself one day.

In order to optimize performance, hunters should strive to place shots into the forwards portion of game chest cavities (see .30-30 and also Game Killing section) to destroy the autonomic plexus along with the major locomotive muscles and bones. Those who are fans of the traditional .30-30WCF can view the .375 as being of a similar nature but with the ability to produce deeper penetration. Thoughts of wider wounding should be put aside.

Much ado about nothing, They could have stopped at the 30-06 and the 30-30 and we'd been fine. No need for another deer cartridge.

How can 'anything' new be a legend? , pass my 45-70 Shiloh Sharps please.

Jeez Jeff, you gonna beat that dead horse till it's mummified?
The old man was, just that an old man. He was wrong to advocate magazine limits.
Not everyone gets it completely.

He did a whole lot of good for our sport by inventing and producing durable reliable affordable guns to the public.

I'll step off my soap box now

Yes it will sell new rifles, before not catching a big enough market share to be profitable and being abandoned.

We hunt in Iowa for deer season and they require either slugs, muzzleloader or straight wall cartridge. It looks interesting to me from that perspective. I could see several makers pick it up for a light bolt action rifle.

Cut your cases back under 1.80" and you'd be good to go in Michigan's Restricted Firearm zone.

Regulations man, not common sense. We talkin' regulations, please bitch get realz