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I was thinking 175barnes lrx loads. Seems like they can hold good velocity over a pretty long distance. Even the barnes factory 190lrx are fairly impressive at 3125fps if it shoots well. Is the 300rum difficult to reload for? Not difficult but IMO pretty inefficient for the amount of powder you're burning every shot. A 300 Weatherby would be a lot more efficient and get you close to the RUM specs without taking out a loan for powder and brass.... recoil is a lot more managable also for some in the 300 Mag or Wby , but I've shot stock Rem 700 rifles in 300 RUM and never had any real discomfort..... Stick would know a lot more about what specs you would need in that spout for the bullets you are interested in. I don't have much experience with long copper pills.. Bob
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What about 28 Nosler? Ive always liked the 7mms I just shy away from the Noslers for whatever strange reason. Does anybody know what velocities you could get with .284 lrx pills in a 28 Nosler?
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What about 28 Nosler? Ive always liked the 7mms I just shy away from the Noslers for whatever strange reason. Does anybody know what velocities you could get with .284 lrx pills in a 28 Nosler? Nosler/Norma brass sucks ass and is an easy pass. "Velocity" alone,is a VERY poor focus. Hint................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I always thought Nosler and norma was good quality. What do you prefer? Lapua?
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Nosler/Norma is fhuqking schit on the average,as compared to Lapooey. If I've a choice,I WANT Alpha only.
Keep the horse in FRONT of the fhuqking cart.
Hint...................(grin)
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What about 28 Nosler? Ive always liked the 7mms I just shy away from the Noslers for whatever strange reason. Does anybody know what velocities you could get with .284 lrx pills in a 28 Nosler? Nosler/Norma brass sucks ass and is an easy pass. "Velocity" alone,is a VERY poor focus. Hint................ I don't want to focus on just velocity. Accuracy and consistency are the most important to me but I just want to get whatever speed I can get for bullet expansion at long range that's all. And to estimate the impact speed at a given range
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What about 28 Nosler? Ive always liked the 7mms I just shy away from the Noslers for whatever strange reason. Does anybody know what velocities you could get with .284 lrx pills in a 28 Nosler? Nosler/Norma brass sucks ass and is an easy pass. "Velocity" alone,is a VERY poor focus. Hint................ I don't want to focus on just velocity. Accuracy and consistency are the most important to me but I just want to get whatever speed I can get for bullet expansion at long range that's all. And to estimate the impact speed at a given range Do it this way...how fhuqking "far",is YOUR far? Placement trumps ALL and less is very often MORE,as capacity goes. Hint.................
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Stick, who else is making the 22,26,28,30 Nosler brass these days?
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Who fhuqking cares......................(grin)
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What about 28 Nosler? Ive always liked the 7mms I just shy away from the Noslers for whatever strange reason. Does anybody know what velocities you could get with .284 lrx pills in a 28 Nosler? Nosler/Norma brass sucks ass and is an easy pass. "Velocity" alone,is a VERY poor focus. Hint................ I don't want to focus on just velocity. Accuracy and consistency are the most important to me but I just want to get whatever speed I can get for bullet expansion at long range that's all. And to estimate the impact speed at a given range Do it this way...how fhuqking "far",is YOUR far? Placement trumps ALL and less is very often MORE,as capacity goes. Hint................. What about 28 Nosler? Ive always liked the 7mms I just shy away from the Noslers for whatever strange reason. Does anybody know what velocities you could get with .284 lrx pills in a 28 Nosler? Nosler/Norma brass sucks ass and is an easy pass. "Velocity" alone,is a VERY poor focus. Hint................ I don't want to focus on just velocity. Accuracy and consistency are the most important to me but I just want to get whatever speed I can get for bullet expansion at long range that's all. And to estimate the impact speed at a given range Do it this way...how fhuqking "far",is YOUR far? Placement trumps ALL and less is very often MORE,as capacity goes. Hint................. Agreed! And my far is 800 yards
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At your far,how big is your "fast"...regarding impact velocity?.....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Running numbers on ballistic calculators it shows the 7mag/300win with lead free bullets to be around 1600+fps @800 yards while the 28 Nosler/300rum with lead free bullets to be around 1750fps  800 yards. Not sure if the 150fps will help or not at those speeds for expansion. I guess it doesn't hurt. If it really doesn't have a big affect then the old 300winmag with 175 lrx might be the ticket with less recoil than either of the ultra magnums.
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Perspective.
A 21" 7-08 shooting 180 ELD's at 2600fps,hits the 1000yd line at 1600fps.
Ooopsie!
HINT.................(grin)
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Waaaaaaaaaay too high estimate.....
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
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Perspective.
A 21" 7-08 shooting 180 ELD's at 2600fps,hits the 1000yd line at 1600fps.
Ooopsie!
HINT.................(grin) Hmmmmm. Not sure why my numbers are so low compared to that. I was using the applied ballistics calculator.
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Perspective.
A 21" 7-08 shooting 180 ELD's at 2600fps,hits the 1000yd line at 1600fps.
Ooopsie!
HINT.................(grin) Hmmmmm. Not sure why my numbers are so low compared to that. I was using the applied ballistics calculator. Simply because bullets matter wayyyyyyyyyyy fhuqking more than headstamps. HINT. Your numbers are correct,but your bullets suck ass. The .284" 180 ELD has a .796 BC.....................(grin)
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Right I get all of that. But I HAVE to shoot lead free hunting bullets in California with much lower BCs. If I had it my way I would shoot high BC long range bullets in this gun but I gotta do what I gotta do .
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I simply cited perspective,because extrapolations are germane.
Purty funny to double powder capacity and STILL suck ass...to a "lowly" 21" 7-08..................(grin)
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Who fhuqking cares......................(grin) Guess I should have seen that one coming.... LOL
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It is,what it is...............(grin)
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