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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
The government was denied the power to legislate the right to keep and bear arms in its founding document. It's just that simple. EVERY law written which infringes on this right in any way makes the right simply a government-granted privilege. I consider this a treason, and those involved in writing or enforcing these laws, from Congress to the POTUS to SCOTUS to LEO's traitors. ALL OF THEM.

Rights are absolute. They do not come from government, and a just government has no power to legislate them. What we have now is an unjust (tyrannical) government that needs to be dismantled by force by principled men and women.
Absolutely the truth.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
The government was denied the power to legislate the right to keep and bear arms in its founding document. It's just that simple. EVERY law written which infringes on this right in any way makes the right simply a government-granted privilege. I consider this a treason, and those involved in writing or enforcing these laws, from Congress to the POTUS to SCOTUS to LEO's traitors. ALL OF THEM.

Rights are absolute. They do not come from government, and a just government has no power to legislate them. What we have now is an unjust (tyrannical) government that needs to be dismantled by force by principled men and women.
And...you are absolutely correct.

Yep, the right to keep and bear arms makes no sense at all if the government (which the right is meant to keep in check) has any power to infringe upon it to any extent. The Founders intentionally removed said right from the authority of Government to interfere with it in any way by means of the Second Amendment. "Shall not be infringed" is extremely clear language. It doesn't say, "unless this or except in the case of that."

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Originally Posted by Esox357
Disagree EE, felons equal no guns, time served or not. Choices and consequences.

If someone is too much of a threat to be free (freedom implies the RTKABA), then they are too much of a threat to be out of prison or still alive. Once free, however, all the rights attached to liberty apply, so don't let them go if you don't want them armed and amongst us.

We should be arresting a lot more criminals and keeping them in prison longer, and executing many many more criminals than we currently do. Armed robbery should be a ticket to the gallows, IMO, for example. Certainly on the second conviction.

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Originally Posted by curdog4570
It seems, judging from recent events, that our rights are more at risk when the Repubs have the WH and half of Congress. The Antis didn’t accomplish as much when the Dems had the whole deal.

1. Giving BATFE the authority to outlaw gun parts.

2. Proposing the taking of guns from individuals with no immediate recourse to stop it.


Sadly, this cannot be denied.

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Originally Posted by huntnshoot
The government has made itself the victim of every crime committed and given itself sole standing in criminal court. Actual victims can only testify. They cannot receive reparation. The government continues to make up new statutes of which it is the victim if said statute is broken. Court used to be about actual victims with actual standing. The law used to be about actual harm, actual damage, actual redress.

So which rights do you think the government should be able to deny at will?

Excellent post. Crimes should require a showing of an actual victim who was harmed.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
The government was denied the power to legislate the right to keep and bear arms in its founding document. It's just that simple. EVERY law written which infringes on this right in any way makes the right simply a government-granted privilege. I consider this a treason, and those involved in writing or enforcing these laws, from Congress to the POTUS to SCOTUS to LEO's traitors. ALL OF THEM.

Rights are absolute. They do not come from government, and a just government has no power to legislate them. What we have now is an unjust (tyrannical) government that needs to be dismantled by force by principled men and women.
And...you are absolutely correct.
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Originally Posted by Esox357
Disagree EE, felons equal no guns, time served or not. Choices and consequences.

You are wrong. Once a felon has done their time and shown they are able to live in modern society then they need ALL their rights restored. The felon is going to get a gun anyway laws be darned. An honest ex-felon will abide by the law and try all legal means to get their rights back. Who is being hurt by these draconian laws? Ahhhhhhhh. The honest guy. Once again.

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