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I love it. Wish they'd done it years ago.
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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Why not? It adds a day to Rifle season and it's one more day I won't have to burn vacation on.
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How does it add a day to rifle season? Who’s to say they won’t just peel a day off the other end.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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This is a solution looking for a problem. Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of issues effecting deer hunting in PA, but this isn’t a solution to any of them.
A couple facts: -There’s no hunting of game on Sundays in PA -Rifle Season opens the Monday after Thanksgiving. -There’s no school the Monday after Thanksgiving.
Opening Saturday to then close on Sunday and reopen on Monday is ludicrous.
This is a move by non-hunters to eliminate Monday as a school holiday, getting kids back to school so non-hunter parents don’t have to deal with them.
That’s the road map.
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How does it add a day to rifle season? Who’s to say they won’t just peel a day off the other end.
Because that's how they been presenting it for weeks. We've known this was the direction they were heading for about a month now.
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This is a solution looking for a problem. Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of issues effecting deer hunting in PA, but this isn’t a solution to any of them.
A couple facts: -There’s no hunting of game on Sundays in PA -Rifle Season opens the Monday after Thanksgiving. -There’s no school the Monday after Thanksgiving.
Opening Saturday to then close on Sunday and reopen on Monday is ludicrous.
This is a move by non-hunters to eliminate Monday as a school holiday, getting kids back to school so non-hunter parents don’t have to deal with them.
That’s the road map. Many schools have already eliminated that Monday as a day off. This move is being done to pave the way for Sunday hunting.
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I'll be flamed for this, have been before. Others may have different perspective, this applies to my area.
It really hard to interest a kid in hunting the deer that aren't there for them to see.
My daughter is a persistent kid, she doesn't quit. And she loves to hunt, she wants to go, but does get discouraged. Kids that are less driven, just quit.
They are waiting for the results of the special CWD permits to come in. If the kill, which is in addition to the normal doe kill, isn't high enough, they intend to net and shoot or sharpshoot hundreds of deer in our area.
Saturday opening is a red herring. It will make a non vacation hunting day for some. Here? The schools close, and most employers close if possible for the Monday opener. It is a paid holiday for me.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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Pave the way for Sunday hunting... Sunday hunting is a separate issue. If people want hunting on Sunday, then that should be the issue at hand. Hunting is dying. This isn’t an answer. This is just more movement in the wrong direction.
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The PGC can't give us an extra day to hunt, they can't give us Sunday hunting, they can't give us semi auto rifles. Why? Because of tradition. It wasn't done that way in 1975 around here so it can never change. The hunters here will not allow progress.
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It’s absolutely a red herring.
Kids already have too much to do. Cramming more into the weekend after TG is ludicrous.
This doesn’t benefit hunting or the kids. That Monday should be sacred. It’s about all that’s left.
This whole thing is a fools errand.
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Don't worry. It will never pass the April meetings. Nothing can change here. Progress is always stopped. It's 1975 forever here. We won't get this, we won't get Sundays, and we won't get semi-autos.
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The PGC can't give us an extra day to hunt, they can't give us Sunday hunting, they can't give us semi auto rifles. Why? Because of tradition. It wasn't done that way in 1975 around here so it can never change. The hunters here will not allow progress. It’s the anti-hunting and anti-gun lobbies. It’s not the hunters. They’re a patient lot, happy to slowly peel away what’s sacred. You’ve got your enemies and priorities all mixed up. That’s their goal.
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Don't worry. It will never pass the April meetings. Nothing can change here. Progress is always stopped. It's 1975 forever here. We won't get this, we won't get Sundays, and we won't get semi-autos. Progress is a myth, at least the way you’re spelling it.
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Moosemike,
Excuses. The PGC does exactly what they want. Talk to their biologists. They are told to go do a survey and report the findings and their recommendations.
The policies that follow, frequently are much different than the biologists recommend. That was straight from one i personally know.
The deer management program was overwhelmingly opposed by hunters. It didn't even stutter. It was implemented.
Flintlock hunters begged for decades for an early season to hunt like bowhunters. They started putting in-line ads in the Reg. Book. Within two years, early season, including in lines.
Ditto the crossbows.
Anyone who thinks the PGC is anything but corrupt, isn't paying attention.
There is a rea$on for everything they do.
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I love the Monday opener. Always have.
Hope it stays.
-Jake
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New York's Southern zone season used to open on Monday. I'm glad they finally changed it to Saturday and so is damn near everybody else now. There were freaked out tradionalists who screamed loud and long against it, saying it would ruin the sport. Most of those retards have shut up and now enjoy the Saturday opener as much as the rest of us. Same story for Sunday hunting. Used to be illegal in large portions of the state. Thankfully hunters and DEC were able to pull their heads out of their collective asses and told the religious zealots to GFY and dropped that puritanical bullshyt years ago.
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New York's Southern zone season used to open on Monday. I'm glad they finally changed it to Saturday and so is damn near everybody else now. There were freaked out tradionalists who screamed loud and long against it, saying it would ruin the sport. Most of those retards have shut up and now enjoy the Saturday opener as much as the rest of us. Same story for Sunday hunting. Used to be illegal in large portions of the state. Thankfully hunters and DEC were able to pull their heads out of their collective asses and told the religious zealots to GFY and dropped that puritanical bullshyt years ago. You guys open a week before we do. Totally, different situation. Lots of folks near the long border on the Southern Tier hunt both sides. This is about one issue, changing the opening day of one of Pennsylvania’s numerous whitetail deer seasons.
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Our county schools are closed the 1st full week (rifle) of deer season. The way things are done up there is odd for sure.
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